Re: The next round of negotiations.
Originally Posted by
Moscow
->
As I said before, it's not your intelligence at question just your emotive crystal ball gazing predictions based on your fears and insecurities that prompts you to make sweeping and negative statements that you can't possibly know will come to fruition.
The psychology of the Brexiteer is , no doubt, the mirror image of the Remainer.....Again, not actually relevant to where we are with the negotiations.
Your hope can't be argued with . It is everyone's hope. However the fear of not getting a 'good deal' is not a reason to abandon Brexit. In fact that fear you have should be the driving force to support our negotiators and supporting them in there efforts rather than continually undermining them and dancing to the EU's tune.
Btw, as an accountant you should know that figures purporting to show future transactions are generally b*shit. As an accountant you should know that the only figures that count are the ones that ending yesterday.
Who do you suppose we are? It matters not a jot what we think. Except to us. This is not a football game. We don't have to be loyal supporters. In a democracy you shouldn't have to be a sheep.
In the '70s my parents generation voted into the EU (nb. I have no idea what or whether my parents voted). At the time there were plenty who voted against joining and they started a campaign which gained momentum until in 2016 we had another referendum. The original voting outcome was just as democratic as the last one. Some didn't like it then and some don't like it now. Just because there's a vote it doesn't mean that's the end of the story. Why should it be?
Not that I want another referendum. I'm just saying that all those who bray on about it being a "democratic" decision etc. need to take note that the original referendum was the same. People who don't like the outcome now have just as much right to express their disdain as all those who have been complaining about EU membership all these years.
The psychology aspect of brexit that I was referring to was that of the charging rhinoceros herd. Running in a thick-skinned, angry, pack. Believing their powerful horn makes anything possible and caring nothing for what's destroyed on the way as long as they get to stick it where it hurts.
Let's be clear that I am not saying anyone here who voted leave is a rhino. Not at all! It's simply a convenient metaphor for the movement as a whole rather than individual voters. Basically not a mentality that cares for details or outcomes as long as the target is reached that's all that matters. Rhinos have no plan, they are territorial, spontaneous, super-positive and enthusiastic. Also easy to enrage. Ok, rhinos are also near-sighted and misunderstood. They charge when they are afraid. Their skin is more sensitive than you'd think.
I don't need a crystal ball to know that not enough homework has been done. Perhaps you could explain about the plans we have and the super preparations we have made and how this will all lead to a successful economic outcome in under 25 years?
NB re forecasts - they are extremely important but only as good as the information and assumptions underpinning them. Rubbish in = rubbish out. That's why there is so much uncertainty right now. Nobody can work out what's actually going on!