Re: Are we safer in the EU?
Originally Posted by
OldGreyFox
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Very good point Twink, and you beat me to it, but lets look deeper; The Polish workers who come here are hard working and well trained in Plumbing, Building and Electrical work, while all our young people are encouraged to go to the summer camp that is university. Very few of our young people are learning the skills that the Polish are bringing here. After being in an academic environment and amassing a huge loan the work that is available is below what they envisaged. So why should they work when the benefits system will provide them with a reasonable living and are not required to pay back the loan until they find suitable employment. Anyone from abroad who would earn one tenth of the salary in their own country would be foolish not to come.
And raising the minimum wage must seem like Christmas to all the hard working foreign labourers who are waiting to come to these shores.
The EU who impose rules and regulations to make life more pleasant for the working man (or woman) are largely ignored by most other countries in the EU - but are strictly adhered to here - make our products the most expensive in Europe and can all now be done elsewhere in the EU and shipped here by lorry drivers (mainly foreign) who queue up twenty four seven on the other side of the channel.
Yes Twink, you
are right, the British working man doesn't know which side his bread is buttered these days, but the workers from other parts of the EU certainly do.
the answer is and always has been blatently obvious one .
immigration is good , however to take on a few thousand polish plumbers need not mean opening the door too 500million Europeans. so controlled immigration as practised by just about every other country on the planet is the answer to that one.
as for the why not have uk workers employed instead of sat at home on benefits then again its a simple answer.
no free benefits ........plain and simple , whats wrong with if you wish to claim unemployment payments then you either sign on to training or full time education course, or you report somewhere daily 9 to 5 and some council /government service will make use of you for the day.
obviously if your going to have to do this for whatever the benefit payment is then your better off taking up a real job somewhere if only on the minimum wage . but at present this system simply allows people to literally finish school at 16 and retire for life ............madness at its best .
the'dole' just like free social housing for single mothers was implemented way back when people had a different work and social ( moral?) values and was a great idea in much the same as the free NHS was , however today the world has moved on and changed totally in everything from population to 'outlook' and indeed social conscience leaving these systems to somehow cope .
yet the answers are far from complicated , finding politicians with spines are the real problem !