Re: Possible 100,000 city jobs to go

Well if France is notorious for lack of human rights re Roma I don't think they are very thorough!!
There are at least 20,000 of them all over France.
Sarkozy tried to deport them and he was also responsible for other displacements but you must have noted that he was not accepted as a candidate for president this time. His presidency is not one we want repeated here.

You may indeed already qualify as confirming to EU norms in trade. That wasn't the point.
The point was that you will STILL have to conform to them, countering your assertion that the UK will be free of EU laws. If and when the EU changes those requirements the UK, having lost any voice in designing them, will still have to conform to them.

This was regularly mentioned before the referendum. But as usual the jingoistic and xenophobic mass of the electorate ignored it.

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But both China and India are requesting visa waivers in return for favourable trade conditions. More are likely to do so. So how will we be better off vis a vis immigration, particularly if we have the eu free movement handover period?

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I and a few others have just spent two weeks outlining the way the EU works on another discussion group.

Would you loike to have a go?

How about the three branches of the EU legislature...Council (28 members all being the democratically elected heads of state) charged with outlining the EU's priorities and intended legislation and with a veto on approving them.
The Commission (28 national appointees and subject to EU Parliament veto at appointment, each responsible for one area of expertise and which designs and makes sure the resulting legislation is legal and operable. It also makes sure laws at carried out if required. Some laws are required, some are suggested and some each country can comply in its own way. It puts the Council's requests into text after research and efficacy but does not have any vote on its passing into law.
The third is the directly elected Parliament which can veto legislation, reject Commissioners and send items back for reappraisal.

Now maybe you can tell me exactly where there is a lack of democracy.

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So we will still have to comply with all the regulations, we will continue to have free movement for an indefinite period and we may have to deal with high tariffs and no cheap air and mobile tariffs, visas to go to Europe, no E111 and increased immigration from outside the EU. Plus our government is completely distracted from important domestic issues. Just what are the positives?

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SF if the UK didn't have to accept EU labour when needed, the UK would merely open Tiers 1 and 2 of the 2008 UK Immigration law covering non EU movement of labour.
That would mean if labour from the Philippines for example replaced EU labour the country would be more full of Muslims. If more come from Pakistan the same thing would happen.
Is this what you want?

It is clear by now that as we said last year, immigrant labour is essential to the wealth of the UK. There are just not enough Brits to fill the places even of they wanted to.

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Hi

Simples, we set the Visa Waivers to those we need to maintain our economy.

A points system.

My son is based in Taiwan, they snapped his hand off to get him there.

That job is now finished, but he still has the right to live and work there.

Currently flying between Taiwan and the Philippines for a joint UK, Taiwanese venture which is being outsourced there.

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The UK was warned.
Those of us who did the warning were labelled as Project Fear.
Chickens do come home to roost.

Course Annie you are also forgetting the quite possible breakup of the UK just as a dessert.

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So whatever system you use you will still have non EU people entering, living in and working in the UK. Your system is what I am talking about...a waiver for Tier 1 and 2 of the 2008 non EU immigration act 2008...of more colloquially, the UK Points System, in place for 6 years.
You can already have nearly as many professionally qualified non EU immigrant as you want. Why do you want non EU unskilled and semi skilled instead of EU people? What is the difference except that your non EU incomers are even more unused to the UK's ways and may even be hidden terrorists.

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No one I know had a problem with immigration just didn't want anyone walking in no numbers counted.