04-04-2014, 02:22 PM
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No problem with another referendum. Presumably you will also be happy if we can have one about all the other things 'imposed' on us without our say so - like selling off the post office, privatising....sorry....reorganising the NHS, and the Bedroom Tax? If not, what's the difference?04-04-2014, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by manasota
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No problem with another referendum. Presumably you will also be happy if we can have one about all the other things 'imposed' on us without our say so - like selling off the post office, privatising....sorry....reorganising the NHS, and the Bedroom Tax? If not, what's the difference?
04-04-2014, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by plantman
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The EU is nothing more than a giant club set up by politicians for the sole benefit of politicians. Some will argue that we have voted for these politicians and yes that is true, but were we given the choice on the basic premise as to whether a whole new tier of government was required to give non-jobs to these politicians then no, I think not. I contend that we, as a nation, managed quite well to trade with the world for hundreds of years before this club was set up, and the only reason behind all the scaremongering regarding not being able to trade freely again is because the career politicians, all of whom are on huge salaries, benefits and expenses don't want their cosy little club broken up. God forbid their gravy train should end just for the good of the people...
Barry, Barry, Barry, - just who was the sil;ly cow who went and signed the 'Single European Act Treaty, which henceforth allowed the EU to draw up Regulations, which were automatically incoroporated into domestic legislation??? Prior to the signing of that Treaty all EU regulations needed to be debated and voted on by our own domestic parliament.
04-04-2014, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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Barry, Barry, Barry, - just who was the sil;ly cow who went and signed the 'Single European Act Treaty, which henceforth allowed the EU to draw up Regulations, which were automatically incoroporated into domestic legislation??? Prior to the signing of that Treaty all EU regulations needed to be debated and voted on by our own domestic parliament.
04-04-2014, 02:48 PM
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Its a reply to Sue Arnold.no, I'm not confusing the EU and our govt; I'm pointing out that a govt that can in no way be claimed to be representative of the population of this country (ie. who voted for a coalition?) has seen fit to introduce policies which never appeared in the manifestos of either of the coalition partners, but which have definitely and tangibly reduced my quality of life, and that of the people and communities who I live amongst.
So, I feel at least as 'angry' as you do about the EU.
04-04-2014, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by manasota
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Ah! We have got to the crux of the argument at last. British thieving scumbags are better than foreign thieving scumbags. As long as its Maria Miller who has her hand in your wallet, you can live with it, but woe betide Maria von Muller or Maria Mullerini. British thieving scumbags are the best.You win - cant argue with that.
04-04-2014, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by manasota
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Ah! We have got to the crux of the argument at last. British thieving scumbags are better than foreign thieving scumbags. As long as its Maria Miller who has her hand in your wallet, you can live with it, but woe betide Maria von Muller or Maria Mullerini. British thieving scumbags are the best.You win - cant argue with that.
04-04-2014, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by manasota
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Er.....no. Just when everyone on here seems to blame the EU for anything and everything, its worth remembering that its our own government has made the really bad decisions - all on its own.
I've used it before so I'm sorry but it's worth mentioning again -
“The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.”
That's Plato, on politics / politicians.
He died around 347BC.
What is it that he knew then that we don't know now? stevmk2
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