Re: Aims of BLM
Originally Posted by
keezoy
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Yes and they would be welcome as long as they intend to abide by our laws like the rest of us have to..and are not stooges and spies for the Chinese regime. Muslims? There is not the blanket hate here that I have seen elsewhere. In either direction.
I don’t know where you mean by elsewhere but blanket hate is not what I see here in the uk or elsewhere . We have bent over backwards towards Muslims and have been repaid with numerous terror attacks where innocent people have been murdered . These terror attacks are well planned to make sure of maximum harm and are always against soft targets usually where there will be plenty of children and young people, defenceless civilians . The Muslims we have here are mainly from a particularly fanatic sect of Islam that we have imported from Pakistan . While many are hard working citizens some are not . They have brought with them horrible cultural practices which our leaders in their wisdom have allowed calling anyone who objects racists . Chief among this is abuse of woman . So the police have closed their eyes for decades to hundreds of cases of child abuse involving white female children .They have also infiltrated our education system teaching hatred against non Muslims in our schools and places of education In short in the name of multiculturalism we have tolerated the intolerant .
And now have reaped the results .
I'm not sure whether you spent much time in Sydney or Melbourne or any other of the big cities here - I know you were in Brisbane..I think? But mostly Muslims live here in peace and basically get on with their lives. They are free to worship and live as they wish. THere are also large numbers of Muslims who have migrated to regional and country areas. That experiment seems to have worked very well. Haven't heard any words of hate from there.
I have spent quite a lot of time in Sydney as my son used to live there . You have less Muslims in Australia than we do and due to your immigration laws they tend to be educated ( not that that always makes a difference ) but in the UK we have a lot from poor areas of Pakistan and here they behave just as in a rural village taking orders from the village headman . One example of this was the corruption in Tower Hamlets ( part of London ) whose Mayor rigged the entire voting system . It’s a terrible place not known for entering the British way of life just wanting the benefits of living in our democracy . Muslims here have used our own democratic laws against use and playing the race card again and again .
One thing I did notice in Sydney was the armed security around Synagogues and Jewish schools .We have this too in the UK . Jewish people are people too yet they are targeted all the time .They don’t play the race card so they tend to fend for themselves . Our Labour Party has been so infiltrated by - I am afraid to say it by hate filled anti Semitic people many of whom are Muslims - it has become a national scandal .
As to the aboriginal people Sydney has a big population most of them live in the Redfern district once the poorest area of Sydney My son used to work at the centre for aboriginal excellence in Sydney- I forget its exact name ( he was the only non aboriginal man there ) a place where indigenous young people from rural regions couLd come and stay and attend various courses etc in order to help and give opportunities to the aboriginal people . This was at that time funded by the Australian Government but was not without its problems .
There have been a couple of fatal Islamic terrorist incidents which were admittedly dreadful. I'm sure they got press O/S like all the bad things do.
The Lindt cafe hostage killing and the terrible Bali bombings - the latter being exactly what we have had but far more in our country for years .
Australia has changed in its attitude towards the indigenous people . When I first went to Australia more that three decades ago I was appalled at the racist remarks made quite openly towards Aborigines.
It was really terrible in latter years I have not seen this at all.
However when I was in Darwin seven years ago I spoke to a lady ( in the museum ) who told me discrimination was still bad . She was herself half aboriginal and half french . I also was surprised to see when visiting Uluru not an aboriginal person to be seen working in the park I asked why this was and was given vague answers they were away for training Etc etc . The Uluru museum was being run by a Chinese lady .The only people we did see were some very poor people who came and asked us for petrol .
I have had to work hard to not react on this forum when I read comments like
"All Muslims are scum"..and
"They should all be exterminated"..(Trawl back through the threads and you will see them) Yes some of them are scum. Like some members of every race and religion are scum. If we can't have faith that most people ..black, white, conservative, socialist..Muslim, Jew, Christian ..all of us..just want a peaceful life and work towards it, we will never change. Nothing will ever get better. And the hate will win: and destroy us all. We may as well just all just give up and die now. Because if we go on like that..no matter how arrogantly and ignorantly confident we are,
nobody will win.
This is just a forum Keezoy . In the uk most people are extremely tolerant . I have lived in Islamic countries most of my life - people are people some good some bad .
However those countries once tolerant have become in my lifetime far more fundamental and intolerant .
It’s a sad fact that fundamental Islam intends to dominate the world . I say fundamental because really that is what Islam is a reactionary intolerant religion .
Moderate Muslims are irrelevant - Islam is Islam
All moderate people are in the main irrelevant because those who demonstrate and shout the loudest will always win .
You only have to look at the recent BLM protests Here in the UK
Here we have a country the most tolerant to race in the world in the middle of a pandemic heading towards economic disaster yet it has been - quite literally brought to its knees - by a bunch of political agitators.
These are not moderate people .
They are people who can do this because they are living in a tolerant democratic society .
In other countries
especially the oppressive countries that many of the people originate from this would not be tolerated in any shape or form .
For that reason you don’t see protest marches in Africa or Pakistan ( unless they want to murder some poor woman ) .
I have traveled much in my life and have met many good people of all colours and religions .
Now back in my own country I am saddened at the way it has become full of self hatred .
We and the other democratic countries of Europe are quite literally committing mass suicide .
IMO it can only get worse and I fear for the world my grandchildren have to live in
You are lucky to be living in Australia