22-10-2016, 07:20 PM
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Re: World Population
Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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Yes, exactly Pummie, what anyone does in private is fine by me, but same sex affairs are just not right, you know it and I know it and no matter how you dress it up, it should be kept in private and not advertised as normal behaviour. The latest is :- All the homosexuals who were convicted when the law said is was illegal are now being pardoned. With all the problems the country has to face why is the government wasting time on trivial issues such as this.....It couldn't be to attract voters could it?
The irony of all this is:- It is illegal for a man to pay a woman for sexual favours........WTF?
And by the way......Are burglars born burglars? Are rapists born rapists? Are paedophiles born paedophiles? Engineers born Engineers? Of course they aren't, and neither are Homosexuals. We are corrupted by our environments.....
22-10-2016, 07:49 PM
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Re: World Population
Originally Posted by Rehab44
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Re last sentence...TOSH!
Like it or not Rehab this is the way it is.....
22-10-2016, 09:15 PM
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Re: World Population
Originally Posted by Rehab44
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If what you claim is true how come the environment has only affected a minority? I was under the impression that we are all affected by the environment but if you are an enviromental scientist I will bow to your superior knowledge
That's my take on it Rehab, I'm not an environmental scientist just an observer of life writing my opinion on a forum.
22-10-2016, 09:33 PM
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Re: World Population
Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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The older generation are more likely to dissaprove of homosexuallity due to the environment they were exposed to for the most part of their life (I probably fall into this category) but the younger generation accept it as quite normal.
So whilst lots of older people are still in the rut of their younger conditioning that does not excuse their behaviours. Many of them still refer to African men as "niggers" and to Pakistani men as "Paki's". They mean no harm by it, it is just a reflex, a programmed response. Unlearning such things requires effort and commitment which sadly many just don't do.
What we must all realise is that the core problems are not about what each of us believe in any given generation. Each generation has its own set of standards and behaviours. The core problem is that each generation is being programmed and conditioned from a young age. What the conditioning is almost doesn't matter. The problem is being conditioned at all.
We must try to understand who is perpetrating the conditioning and how they are doing it.
23-10-2016, 08:16 AM
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OGF I am a little confused by your 'scientific' reasoning - who or whom are you blaming exactly for the anomaly of 'homosexual' personalities' is it God, Genetics or bad parental techniques.Incidentally there would probably be a similar % of non-professional runners compared to gay people - who would you blame for this abhorent
behavior pattern - God; genetics or bad parenting - you running behavior is certainly seen as deviant by many!
23-10-2016, 12:23 PM
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Re: World Population
Originally Posted by Rehab44
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Excellent response, I admit to agreeing with some of it, but not all, I blame genetics 
In my book nothing is written in stone and I appreciate differing opinions.
23-10-2016, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Realist
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The thing is, as we grow older, become (hopefully) wiser and better able to think, then we each have a duty almost to understand and accept that we have been programmed and conditioned and should thus seek to undo that conditioning, unlearn what we have been taught and start afresh from first principles.So whilst lots of older people are still in the rut of their younger conditioning that does not excuse their behaviours. Many of them still refer to African men as "niggers" and to Pakistani men as "Paki's". They mean no harm by it, it is just a reflex, a programmed response. Unlearning such things requires effort and commitment which sadly many just don't do.
What we must all realise is that the core problems are not about what each of us believe in any given generation. Each generation has its own set of standards and behaviours. The core problem is that each generation is being programmed and conditioned from a young age. What the conditioning is almost doesn't matter. The problem is being conditioned at all.
We must try to understand who is perpetrating the conditioning and how they are doing it.
I don't think there is a major coordinated conspiracy going on.
It is necessary to prepare our young people for the journey from child to adult, and to take their place in society. Most parents try to set an example of what they believe to be right. Parents themselves have made mistakes and through those mistakes have learned, what they consider to be, the best way to progress through life. The child may, or may not, take advantage of their parents wisdom. They may recognise flaws in their parents teachings and decide to take their own path through life.
Education, we all know the benefit of a good education, so in this country attending school is compulsory, and why not? We will learn many things in school, but the main thing we will learn is how to react with other people. Each government has it's own ideas how to teach our young, I am no expert, all I can say is that my schooldays did a good enough job for me to build a mostly happy and rewarding life. But things change and now schools are unrecognizable to me, I would have thought the best people to ask about teaching our young people are the teachers, not the government.
All in all though, that's life. There are a lot of things I could complain about, but there are a lot of things that I admire, in other people, and in technology, at some point you have to take things at face value and believe what you see and hear. Act on the things you can change, and take with a 'pinch of salt' those that you can not...
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