21-12-2018, 11:19 AM
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Re: Why are people so surprised?
Originally Posted by Julie1962
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We have lived 40 years under the EU we now have experience, something lacking in the 70s. And something the young who complain about us leaving lack too.
21-12-2018, 11:23 AM
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Re: Why are people so surprised?
Originally Posted by Solasch
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In the 70 you had UK politicians for some time. THEY misled you. You still have UK politicians, but they don't mislead you anymore?
21-12-2018, 11:34 AM
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Re: Why are people so surprised?
I'm not sure why he keeps harping on.Either it's the money his country will lose, either by having to make up the shortfall or by losing handouts from Brussels,
or perhaps because he just enjoys having an argument...
that he'll never win - a masochist!
21-12-2018, 11:40 AM
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Re: Why are people so surprised?
Originally Posted by JBR
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I'm not sure why he keeps harping on.Either it's the money his country will lose, either by having to make up the shortfall or by losing handouts from Brussels,
or perhaps because he just enjoys having an argument...
that he'll never win - a masochist!
21-12-2018, 11:51 AM
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Re: Why are people so surprised?
Originally Posted by Julie1962
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It's an enormous EU campaign JBR if you look at many forums you will find people like him posting manically, trying to reverse the referendum. It's fun watching them tying themselves in knots to be honest. It's obvious when you see only threads they participate in are brexit ones. Twitter is alight with them too. Will be interesting when it's all over if they find another cause or just disappear from the forums I predict disappearance.
21-12-2018, 12:01 PM
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Re: Why are people so surprised?
Originally Posted by Solasch
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In 1975 you were misled by your politicians, as has been pointed out by several on this forum. What makes you certain this time is different?
In the referendum we had ...
1. Media - BBC, Sky News - all in favour of remain
2. Media - Observer, Guardian, Standard, Sun, Mirror, Telegraph, Star - all in favour of remain.
3. Conservative leadership - remain
4. Labour leadership - remain
5. SNP - remain
6. Green Party - remain
7. George Osbourne telling us that if we even voted "leave" there would be 800,000 people unemployed and there would need to be an emergency budget of 3 Billion because of "Brexit Shock".
8. Threats by the banks to leave the UK and move to Frankfurt (Deutsche Bank later apologised)
9. Barrack Obama telling the UK we would be at the "back of the queue" when it came to a trade deal.
10. Leo Varadkar - no UK planes allowed to fly over Europe
11. Bloomberg - threatening to move everything to Frankfurt (then opening his 1 billion europe HQ in London)
etc.
We still voted leave.... and the remainers say we didn't know what we were voting for ? I find this absolutely absurd because the remainers and their project fear kept telling us what would happen if we did.
Leave - 350 million on the side of the red bus .... delivered in the Autumn statement by Phillip Hammond and increased to 394 million a week.
It's quite hilarious how Project Fear got everything wrong.....
21-12-2018, 12:02 PM
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Re: Why are people so surprised?
Originally Posted by JBR
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I'm not sure why he keeps harping on.Either it's the money his country will lose, either by having to make up the shortfall or by losing handouts from Brussels,
or perhaps because he just enjoys having an argument...
that he'll never win - a masochist!
When we were given the referendum there were a lot of reports about other EU countries being interested in doing the same. We were brave enough to decide that leave was our best option, and face the financial consequences of regaining control of our country. Others countries were not given the option, but that is what the EU were afraid of!
Perhaps he is jealous because we had the guts to get our while we could, because no other country will be able to get out if we show that we have done well by leaving....... I suspect Junkers crowd are already making arrangements to make it harder & more expensive for others to leave!
21-12-2018, 12:03 PM
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Re: Why are people so surprised?
Originally Posted by JBR
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I'm not sure why he keeps harping on.Either it's the money his country will lose, either by having to make up the shortfall or by losing handouts from Brussels,
or perhaps because he just enjoys having an argument...
that he'll never win - a masochist!
21-12-2018, 12:11 PM
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Re: Why are people so surprised?
Originally Posted by Bread
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No we weren't that's simply not true.In the referendum we had ...
1. Media - BBC, Sky News - all in favour of remain
2. Media - Observer, Guardian, Standard, Sun, Mirror, Telegraph, Star - all in favour of remain.
3. Conservative leadership - remain
4. Labour leadership - remain
5. SNP - remain
6. Green Party - remain
7. George Osbourne telling us that if we even voted "leave" there would be 800,000 people unemployed and there would need to be an emergency budget of 3 Billion because of "Brexit Shock".
8. Threats by the banks to leave the UK and move to Frankfurt (Deutsche Bank later apologised)
9. Barrack Obama telling the UK we would be at the "back of the queue" when it came to a trade deal.
10. Leo Varadkar - no UK planes allowed to fly over Europe
11. Bloomberg - threatening to move everything to Frankfurt (then opening his 1 billion europe HQ in London)
etc.
We still voted leave.... and the remainers say we didn't know what we were voting for ? I find this absolutely absurd because the remainers and their project fear kept telling us what would happen if we did.
Leave - 350 million on the side of the red bus .... delivered in the Autumn statement by Phillip Hammond and increased to 394 million a week.
It's quite hilarious how Project Fear got everything wrong.....
As for no. 2, you can now add the Daily Mail to that list, thanks to their new editor!
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