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Re: Compulsory organ donation England

I have a friend who suffered a fatal stroke recently. Before turning off the life support medical staff asked her husband if they could use her organs he said yes because he knew that was her wish.The problem was though that her daughter got so upset about it he withdrew consent.

It's a shame that happened because I know he now lives with the fact he didn't fulfil her wishes. It's a difficult situation.
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It was mentioned on one of the news reports a couple of weeks ago that they have over 2 million organs . I understand that organs have to be matched, but where are they going to store all the organs of the future ?

I find it very disconcerting , as organs are no longer simply eyes, hearts, liver or kidneys, they are arms, heads, ( plenty of experiments for head transplants been performed) and any part of the anatomy.
Maybe the whole skeletons will be pickled, we would never know what was in a coffin once it's closed.

I don't like the idea, and will not donate my body parts to assist in experimentation. I also wonder if this is likely to be a business venture to fund the NHS, as body parts are sold in a lot of different countries .
How about us selling our body parts to the NHS prior to death , if we so wish ? The way the system is about to become is too easy for a mistake to be made and personal wishes to be by -passed. (deliberately)

Will this also apply to babies and children ?

The whole thing makes me shudder.
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20-12-2017, 07:33 AM
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Re: Compulsory organ donation England

Originally Posted by Puddle Duck ->
It was mentioned on one of the news reports a couple of weeks ago that they have over 2 million organs . I understand that organs have to be matched, but where are they going to store all the organs of the future ?

I find it very disconcerting , as organs are no longer simply eyes, hearts, liver or kidneys, they are arms, heads, ( plenty of experiments for head transplants been performed) and any part of the anatomy.
Maybe the whole skeletons will be pickled, we would never know what was in a coffin once it's closed.

The whole thing makes me shudder.
Is this another Robin Cook theme?
I've yet to see anything which mentions organ storage - very disturbing thought........... If it comes to that and everything is used.........bodyless funerals of the future!!

No reason why some enterprising person shouldn't offer to buy all your bits before your demise!
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20-12-2017, 08:36 AM
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I don't think they do store organs .
They have to be used while they are still fresh an organ can only survive a few hours out of the human body to be viable hence they have special courier services to take them as fast as they can to where the matched recipient is waiting .
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20-12-2017, 09:56 AM
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Nothing compulsory about it, you can opt out, your next of kin can say no and often they can't use your organs anyway.

I've carried a card since I was 18 as have the entire family.

When Tasha died it was only comfort we got knowing she helped so many people, someone can see because of her gift, people are alive today because of it.

That makes her feel like she's still around and still doing good.

It's a comfort to us.

My dad donated his corneas too, so someone can see.

What's not to like about helping people ?
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20-12-2017, 10:14 AM
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I would not like the thought of, keeping some of the unsavoury characters I had the misfortune to encounter going, at my expense.
How is it at your "expense"? What are you planning to do with your organs on your demise? Mine will be burnt, so if there was a possibility of giving someone life then it's a bonus.

I know a lovely man who had a heart and lung transplant in his 50's and went on to continue his career and enjoy a fulfilled life as opposed to being bedridden.
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20-12-2017, 10:22 AM
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A lot has been totally unethical. 50 babies stored for medical research at Alder Hey Hospital. Body parts from a Moors Murders victim have been kept by police for 30 years without her family's knowledge.

Most organs for transplant I understand to be kept alive for a number of hours/days in case of need, but the remainder are stored for research and experimentation, for which we have no say.

Just a simple question with a not so simple answer. Would any of us like to think of our child's head preserved and sold for research ?

One journalist bought two of them, $300 each, and that's not illegal.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates...a-bodies-cody/
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Many years ago I was working as a ward clerk on a men's surgical ward. A man of 36 was brought in having suffered a fatal aneurysm at work, but kept breathing due to technology. His family bravely requested that his organs be donated when the machines were turned off. This was done and six people benefitted. Of course all personal details were kept confidential from both donor and recipient families, but every year on the anniversary we would receive letters of gratitude from those whose lives were saved/improved, which we passed on to the donor family.
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20-12-2017, 11:25 AM
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Any way we can save lives or have a better quality of life must be a good thing.
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20-12-2017, 11:59 AM
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Re: Compulsory organ donation England

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A lot has been totally unethical. 50 babies stored for medical research at Alder Hey Hospital. Body parts from a Moors Murders victim have been kept by police for 30 years without her family's knowledge.

Most organs for transplant I understand to be kept alive for a number of hours/days in case of need, but the remainder are stored for research and experimentation, for which we have no say.

Just a simple question with a not so simple answer. Would any of us like to think of our child's head preserved and sold for research ?

One journalist bought two of them, $300 each, and that's not illegal.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates...a-bodies-cody/
That's an argument for better information and an ethical approach to donated organs. We do need an adult discussion about that obviously but it can't be allowed to stop donations being increased to help those living.
 
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