Some points to ponder?

There seems to be a number of people who want to stop the Brexit and go back to where we were?
But here are some things I cannot understand.
Greece is bankrupt and just been bailed out again. (Kept that quiet)
Italy is not far behind and Spain and Portugal are to be polite struggling.
The only 2 main contributors to this behemoth are Germany and the UK.
We are funding a slowly sinking ship and we have little say who gives the orders on this version of the Titanic.
We are the EU's biggest customer and if they don't deal with us they will struggle even further into the depths.
If we set deals up with Japan and the USA we can get goods to replace Germany. We can buy wine and cheese elsewhere. (if not our own!)
Africa grows coffee beans which they cannot roast and sell to the EU due to tariffs as Germany has that stitched up. Africa in general is struggling so we could help them to move forward.
The EU will eventually implode so why do the Remainers want to put more money in this future disaster.
Which business would have 2 head offices and move from one to the other at a tremendous cost in time and money.???

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Well put Graeme

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Good post Graeme, the channel islands used to supply us with tomatoes and other vegetables but Brussels put paid to that. It will take time, but I'm sure we can survive without the EU. It's about time we prevented foreign investment in our utilities anyway, surely we can produce our own energy, food, water, communications and transport. Because the EU has gradually been taking away all of our industry [and we have let them] we have turned into a very lazy country. If it hadn't been for us, there wouldn't have been 'A Free Europe' so it's time to step up to the plate again. It's about time we got our finger out....

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Good post Graeme.

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Hi

Interesting post.

Where do you get your facts from?

They are very much at odds with those published by our own and other Governments.

Take the coffee thing for example.

Here are the facts.

http://www.ico.org/documents/icc-107...iffs-trade.pdf

So the EU puts a Tariff of 9% on less than 1% of the 12% of World Coffee Production which is grown in Africa.

So what?

It will make naff all difference to Africa.

As for cars, you seem to forget that 50% of UK Car Production and 90% of Commercial Vehicle Production goes to the EU.

We put tariffs on EU Cars, they put tariffs on ours, that is how WTO Rules work.

No, I am not a Remainer, I voted to leave.

The sooner we get on with reducing our dependence on the EU the better.

I cannot, for the life of me understand why we are still giving Billions on foreign aid when we could be putting it to better use here.

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The point of Africa is they are struggling for jobs and money, if they started their own roasting business they could have more of both?? Every little means a lot to them.

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Hi

I agree, but what as that got to do with Brexit?

The two biggest coffee producers in Africa are Ethiopia and Uganda, both very corrupt undemocratic states.

Well capable of roasting their own coffee if they wanted to.

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Just more tariffs which don't need to be there.

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Hi

If there were no tariffs how would the UK survive?

Even so called Free Trade Deals have tariff schedules and Quotas.

If we had a free trade deal with New Zealand and no restrictions, we would no longer have a sheep industry here in the UK.

The much vaunted Free Trade Agreement we were looking at with India fell apart straight away as they where wanting more Immigration to the UK from India.

The purpose of free Trade Agreements is that they are beneficial to all parties, not just one.

This is why they take years to negotiate.