17-07-2017, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Purwell
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Well come on you "Leavers" sort it out you are all so much cleverer than those of us who knew what would happen.
Well your mate Jeremy wants out as well.
I will leave it to him.
17-07-2017, 05:57 PM
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Re: A Mess Up
Originally Posted by Purwell
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Well come on you "Leavers" sort it out you are all so much cleverer than those of us who knew what would happen.
By doing this they stand to make sure we get the worst deal possible and that will be to the detriment of all of us .
17-07-2017, 07:33 PM
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Re: A Mess Up
Originally Posted by Meg
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I don't think many who wished to leave the EU anticipated the 'remainers' being such bad losers and doing everything in their power to prevent our departure from EU taking place.By doing this they stand to make sure we get the worst deal possible and that will be to the detriment of all of us .
17-07-2017, 07:45 PM
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It's leavers who are arguing amongst themselves and trying to make an impossible dream with no plan a reality. It's the real world of business, medicine, science and finance that's asserting itself so that the patriotic dream does not turn into an economic nightmare. It's political pandemonium.17-07-2017, 08:30 PM
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Re: A Mess Up
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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It's leavers who are arguing amongst themselves and trying to make an impossible dream with no plan a reality. It's the real world of business, medicine, science and finance that's asserting itself so that the patriotic dream does not turn into an economic nightmare. It's political pandemonium.
It is the cabinet who are in conflict with themselves, and the situation has become worse since the disastrous Election.
They sense weakness and they are jockeying for position to become the next PM.
I find this very sad.
They should be concentrating on Brexit, getting it right is the most important thing at the moment, it will affect us all for years.
Instead they are putting their personal ambitions above the interests of the Country.
We now have the ridiculous situation where the three most important ministers involved in Brexit, Foreign Secretary, International Trade and Brexit Secretary, are having to keep close to London just to be around for votes.
This is not ideal, they should be abroad negotiating for us.
17-07-2017, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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We are not at war. We have simply shot ourselves in the foot which is not the same thing...
Germany is attempting to conquer Europe... again. Having failed to do it by force twice last century, they are now trying their luck economically.
And they are winning.
As in the 1940s, we are the last free country in Europe, or will be if we get our fingers out.
Also, as in the Second World War, we are home to fifth columnists who did all they could to aid our enemies.
I suspect that Brexit will be our last chance of freedom.
17-07-2017, 11:08 PM
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This is what I mean by emotional patriotic chest-beating. It's pure propaganda and totally without logic.We have been in a mutually rewarding trading partnership with Europe since the Marshall plan was rolled out. We are on an equal par economically with Germany and France but somehow seem to be useless at driving the EU in the way they do. No point in blaming others or making it into some conspiracy. We had just as much power to influence based on our economic might and we let it all go because we could not be bothered. It's complacency and laziness that's got us into a political position we are not happy with. That same complacency and laziness is now creating a Brexit mess as everyone passes the hot potato because accountability is a dirty word.
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