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Re: Any Winston Churchill diehards still around??

Originally Posted by tarantula ->
You say the craziest things!

Oh??? - care to elaborate??? - My Grand parents lived in the East End and were victims of the 'Blitz'. My grandmother was one of those who told Churchill in no uncertain terms to 'sod off'.
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04-06-2018, 10:08 AM
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What a basteward for seeing us through a World war eh. it's such a pity there wasn't someone like Comrade Corbyn around at the time. I'm sure he would have just removed his underwear and bent over.
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04-06-2018, 10:25 AM
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Ahhhh, once again we indulge in the great English sport of putting a person on a pedestal then try to knock them off.
He will be remembered for his achievements far longer than his detractors and to paraphrase him, ’the posters are modest people, with much to be modest about’
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04-06-2018, 10:26 AM
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[QUOTE=Longdogs;1432031]What a basteward for seeing us through a World war eh. it's such a pity there wasn't someone like Comrade Corbyn around at the time. I'm sure he would have just removed his underwear and bent over.[/QUOTE]


That's what the Anglo German Fellowship League did - the vast majority of whom were members of the scumbag 'nasty party'.
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04-06-2018, 10:30 AM
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Re: Any Winston Churchill diehards still around??

Originally Posted by Uncle Joe ->
Oh??? - care to elaborate??? - My Grand parents lived in the East End and were victims of the 'Blitz'. My grandmother was one of those who told Churchill in no uncertain terms to 'sod off'.
And what if anything have you ever achieved? Your dreams unfulfilled and now you are are a bitter and frustrated old man.
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04-06-2018, 10:38 AM
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Re: Any Winston Churchill diehards still around??

Originally Posted by Longdogs ->
What a basteward for seeing us through a World war eh. it's such a pity there wasn't someone like Comrade Corbyn around at the time. I'm sure he would have just removed his underwear and bent over.
Awesome post Longdogs......
Instead of blaming Churchill for the blitz, why don't you actually blame the people who dropped the bombs UJ.....

If it wasn't for Churchill, we'd all be driving Volkswagons, BMW's and Mecedes and getting shafted by the EU.....Oh! wait a minute, we are!........At least he postponed the inevitable for a decade or two....

And why do Aussies always take the high moral ground? Okay we get it, you hate Britain and you left for the beer, barbies and beaches...No bias there then!
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04-06-2018, 10:46 AM
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The Great Man was a bit of a prophet too....
In The River War (1899) which concerned the Sudan campaign, Churchill wrote:

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."
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04-06-2018, 10:50 AM
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The Great Man was a bit of a prophet too....
Crikey, that's profoundly true.
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04-06-2018, 10:53 AM
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Re: Any Winston Churchill diehards still around??

Originally Posted by OldGreyFox ->
Awesome post Longdogs......
Instead of blaming Churchill for the blitz, why don't you actually blame the people who dropped the bombs UJ.....

If it wasn't for Churchill, we'd all be driving Volkswagons, BMW's and Mecedes and getting shafted by the EU.....Oh! wait a minute, we are!........At least he postponed the inevitable for a decade or two....

And why do Aussies always take the high moral ground? Okay we get it, you hate Britain and you left for the beer, barbies and beaches...No bias there then!

I do, - the scumbags in the 'nasty party'. German rearmament and their expansion into the Rhineland and then Sudatentland could have stopped, but the barstewards in the AGF deemed that it was more 'profitable' to keep supplying Germany with steel and equipment needed to pursue their expansion and ultimately war.

Membership of AGF reads like who's who of the scumbag 'nasty party' cabinet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-German_Fellowship
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04-06-2018, 10:54 AM
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How about this then?

Winston Churchill, speech delivered at the University of Zurich, 19 September 1946
I wish to speak about the tragedy of Europe, this noble continent, the home of all the great
parent races of the Western world, the foundation of Christian faith and ethics, the origin of
most of the culture, arts, philosophy and science both of ancient and modern times. If Europe
were once united in the sharing of its common inheritance there would be no limit to the
happiness, prosperity and glory which its 300 million or 400 million people would enjoy. Yet
it is from Europe that has sprung that series of frightful nationalistic quarrels, originated by
the Teutonic nations in their rise to power, which we have seen in this 20th century and in our
own lifetime wreck the peace and mar the prospects of all mankind.
What is this plight to which Europe has been reduced? Some of the smaller states have indeed
made a good recovery, but over wide areas are a vast, quivering mass of tormented, hungry,
careworn and bewildered human beings, who wait in the ruins of their cities and homes and
scan the dark horizons for the approach of some new form of tyranny or terror. Among the
victors there is a Babel of voices, among the vanquished the sullen silence of despair. That is
all that Europeans, grouped in so many ancient states and nations, and that is all that the
Germanic races have got by tearing each other to pieces and spreading havoc far and wide.
Indeed, but for the fact that the great republic across the Atlantic realised that the ruin or
enslavement of Europe would involve her own fate as well, and stretched out hands of
succour and guidance, the Dark Ages would have returned in all their cruelty and squalor.
They may still return.
Yet all the while there is a remedy which, if it were generally and spontaneously adopted by
the great majority of people in many lands, would as by a miracle transform the whole scene
and would in a few years make all Europe, or the greater part of it, as free and happy as
Switzerland is today. What is this sovereign remedy? It is to recreate the European fabric, or
as much of it as we can, and to provide it with a structure under which it can dwell in peace,
safety and freedom. We must build a kind of United States of Europe. In this way only will
hundreds of millions of toilers be able to regain the simple joys and hopes which make life
worth living. The process is simple. All that is needed is the resolve of hundreds of millions
of men and women to do right instead of wrong and to gain as their reward blessing instead of
cursing.
 
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