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21-05-2018, 02:04 PM
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I would think home grown terrorists come from parents who may or may not be immigrants themselves and who are probably not terrorists. Not really a defence of a hostile immigration environment, is it?

The Mail was Nazi supporting in the Thirties and hasn't really changed its political stance. It spouts inflammatory lies on a daily basis and is read by the gullible, the idiotic and fellow travellers. Paul Dacre, its editor, is certifiable and it is owned by a Non-Dom tax avoider yet it wields a lot of influence in the Tory party. Scary is hardly the word!
The terrorists come from Muslim communities, who originate from Muslim countries. Yeah? As Douglas Murray pointed out, "the more Islam you have the more terrorism you will get".

The looney Left never tire of banging on about the 1930s but they never ever mention that The Daily Mirror took exactly the same stance. Left-wingers like their hero George Bernard Shaw was a great admirer of Mussolini but they never ever mention that either. Or the number of Left-wingers who loved Stalin.

Lord Rothermere's support for Mosley evaporated when he saw the violence and antisemitism associated with his group. And he at least foresaw the potential threat from Germany, and campaigned for rearmament, whilst papers on the left – such as the Guardian – were critical of Hitler but opposed rearming.


People read The Mail because it has been right about so many issues over the decades including the immigration shambles. And speaks for the majority of respectable, law abiding people in England. And of course it has the best journalists.

The Mail's 4.3 million daily readers include more from the top three social classes (A, B and C1) than the Times, Guardian, Independent (before it closed as a hard copy paper) and Financial Times combined.
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21-05-2018, 02:50 PM
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Most terrorists at the moment might be Muslim but does that mean most Muslims are terrorists? Obviously not. If it were the case. we would be in a state of civil war by now, given the number of Muslims in the country.
This attitude, as put forward by all wrong thinking denizens of the Right and their propaganda sheets is nothing more than an updating of Heath's 'reds under the bed' scaremongering.
Designed to heighten public paranoia and welcome heavy handed security clampdowns when anyone with a functioning brain can see most such measures are pointless in reducing the risk of terrorism which, of course, is not their real primary aim.
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21-05-2018, 02:52 PM
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The Mail's circulation is boosted by giveaways, not everyone buys a copy. There are websites given over to listing the lies the Mail prints. Nuff sed.
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21-05-2018, 05:36 PM
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The terrorists come from Muslim communities, who originate from Muslim countries. Yeah? As Douglas Murray pointed out, "the more Islam you have the more terrorism you will get".

The looney Left never tire of banging on about the 1930s but they never ever mention that The Daily Mirror took exactly the same stance. Left-wingers like their hero George Bernard Shaw was a great admirer of Mussolini but they never ever mention that either. Or the number of Left-wingers who loved Stalin.

Lord Rothermere's support for Mosley evaporated when he saw the violence and antisemitism associated with his group. And he at least foresaw the potential threat from Germany, and campaigned for rearmament, whilst papers on the left – such as the Guardian – were critical of Hitler but opposed rearming.

People read The Mail because it has been right about so many issues over the decades including the immigration shambles. And speaks for the majority of respectable, law abiding people in England. And of course it has the best journalists.

The Mail's 4.3 million daily readers include more from the top three social classes (A, B and C1) than the Times, Guardian, Independent (before it closed as a hard copy paper) and Financial Times combined.
Well said.

The section I have emboldened is a surprise, though I can believe it.
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21-05-2018, 05:37 PM
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Most terrorists at the moment might be Muslim but does that mean most Muslims are terrorists?
Who has made such a claim?

Evidence?
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21-05-2018, 05:47 PM
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Who has made such a claim?

Evidence?
The terrorists come from Muslim communities, who originate from Muslim countries. Yeah? As Douglas Murray pointed out, "the more Islam you have the more terrorism you will get".


Insinuates such an idea.
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21-05-2018, 05:53 PM
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Re: Labour Getting Even Worse on Immigration

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The terrorists come from Muslim communities, who originate from Muslim countries. Yeah? As Douglas Murray pointed out, "the more Islam you have the more terrorism you will get".


Insinuates such an idea.
It doesn't insinuate that all muslims are terrorists at all.

If only 1% of muslims are terrorists (and don't shoot me down; I just plucked a nominal number out of the air), then the more Islam you have the more terrorism you will get.

Let me substantiate that mathematically:

1000 muslims = 10 terrorists

10000 muslims = 100 terrorists

QED
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21-05-2018, 05:59 PM
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Well said.

The section I have emboldened is a surprise, though I can believe it.
Of course you can.
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21-05-2018, 08:12 PM
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The Mail's circulation is boosted by giveaways, not everyone buys a copy. There are websites given over to listing the lies the Mail prints. Nuff sed.

Yeah, shit peddling Left-wing sites who don't want the public to know.
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21-05-2018, 08:14 PM
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Yeah, shit peddling Left-wing sites who don't want the public to know.
Agreed.....
 
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