It's very dangerous if they believe they are above the people we saw riots about poll tax because a government got that bit wrong. When the people don't want a thing it's a brave person or stupid person stands in their way.

There is a good article here which explains how Britain was illegally taken into the EU and how the British people were duped and lied to.

http://www.vernoncoleman.com/euillegally.html

No parliament EVER, has had the right or power to change the British constitution

. Yet Ted Heath did exactly this when he and parliament signed the European Communities Bill of 1972. This set the entire ball rolling for the entire illegal and fraudulent EU process from that point.

The article concludes:

" the errors made by Heath and Wilson mean that when we want to leave the EU it will be very easy.

Because, officially, we never joined.

An independent British Parliament would simply have to pass one short Act of Parliament and give notice to the EU and we would be out of this accursed club."

There is a good article here which explains how Britain was illegally taken into the EU and how the British people were duped and lied to.

http://www.vernoncoleman.com/euillegally.html

No parliament EVER, has had the right or power to change the British constitution WITHOUT the consent of the people, i.e. without a referendum. Yet Ted Heath did exactly this when he and parliament signed the European Communities Bill of 1972. This set the entire ball rolling for the entire illegal and fraudulent EU process from that point.

The article concludes:

" the errors made by Heath and Wilson mean that when we want to leave the EU it will be very easy.

Because, officially, we never joined.

An independent British Parliament would simply have to pass one short Act of Parliament and give notice to the EU and we would be out of this accursed club."

Some very good points well made.

If 'democracy' means rule by the people, perhaps we should (like Switzerland) have a system in place of legally binding referenda to be held on all matters of importance.

Yes, we elect a government for five years but, as we all know, whatever they announce in their manifestos tends to be conveniently forgotten about as soon as they're in post.

Signing the various EU treaties since being a member have all been without any reference to the people of this country.
All should have been subject to the agreement of the people in a referendum.

The rest of the world trades with the EU without being told to accept free access by anyone into their country.

We can do the same.

Why isn't the EU threatening the US, for example, in the same way?

But procedures and historical precedent must prevail.

Stamping your feet a la OP cannot be allowed to override British law. That is mob rule

The UK is not in the throes of demanding internal change in law...it is demanding INTERNATIONAL TREATY LAW be overturned.
That is a very different thing and involves the will of the other party.

Mr. Faron is picking up the torch for all those who reject being illegally and unconstitutionally bounced into accepting whatever the PM and her cabinet decides is best for us all.
That can only be decided by "us all".

If you allow an unelected PM and her chosen few to ignore the will of the people on what leaving means for them, you re opening all the doors and letting in top down tyranny. If the public votes for one thing, no matter how woolly and undefined, th govt must not be allowed to design a bargain that may well do the very people who voted in favour of leaving to be damaged by.

The decision to leave was taken but HOW we leave...was not. And the very devilish details may well be what designs your future and the future of your family.

For example are you sure you want to do entangling trade deals with the USA, which has always demanded corporate dominance and protection and could mess with the NHS? Isn't that why the UK was against TTIP?
How about India which demands more immigration?
Or China which is clearly set on global financial domination?

What if the govt wants to do deals with all these and you have no say?

That is why for 500+ years, Parliament, the democratically elected representative of the people, always has the final say.

It can't possibly be a case of Leave and damn the consequences. No one would be so foolish. That would place the UK firmly into the wishes and control of other countries without the people's approval. With Parliamentary oversight the people have the final say. It may be "inconvenient" but it is absolutely vital for the democracy you say you expect.
I also expect a second referendum on any terms the govt comes to. Then there has to be an EU Parliamentary vote...the EU gets a voice too. and that vote has to be by national constitutional definition...ie once again Belgium has to get the approval of all 5 of its regions. If the UK's leaving damages just one of the regions it can hold up the final agreement which has to be agreed thus:

In effect, this means that the final deal at the end of a negotiated UK exit from the EU would need to be ratified by EU leaders via a qualified majority vote, a majority in the European Parliament and by the remaining 27 national parliaments across the EU.

http://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/...ng-article-50/

You have a very long way to go. I would get used to crossing your fingers and holding your breath.
Please read that article carefully. You are not just leaving...you are breaking an international treaty. You don't just walk out of the door because 4% of a population says so on the day.

Hi

I am not in agreement with the interpretation of the current situation as given by Flicker.

We are not breaking an International Treaty, we are complying with the rules of that Treaty, specifically Article 50. which allows a Member State to leave.

That treaty also states that at the end of the two year period of negotiation, membership automatically ceases unless all parties agree an extension.

I find it somewhat strange that a member should continue to post an opposing view to that given by the EU, even when a link has been posted to the EU's own website which specifies their position.

Yet another person trying to interfere with other peoples point of view. It is not up to you or anyone else to tell people what to post.