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27-02-2018, 10:39 AM
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Re: The cost of austerity

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I can't imagine working people not being able to feed themselves unless they are making some very poor choices in their lives, and as for nurses their pay seems pretty good to me...

"Fully qualified nurses start on salaries of £22,128 rising to £28,746 on Band 5 of the NHS Agenda for Change Pay Rates. Salaries in London attract a high-cost area supplement. With experience, in positions such as nurse team leader on Band 6, salaries progress to £26,565 to £35,577."
Well I can only speak for my area Barry, I have a friend who works full time in the care industry, she and her husband both work hard. But their rent for a two bed flat (they have two sons) is over £1000 a month. They do their best, have to have a car for her work, they work opposing shifts so no child care costs. Neither drink or smoke. They haven't resorted to food banks but often have a week with no electric because they can't afford to recharge their leccy card. They are fairly typical of people on nmw and having to rent privately.

The only hot food they get is weekends when they go to his parents, the kids always get fed they prioritise that but themselves they don't.
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27-02-2018, 10:43 AM
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Then they need to get the hell out of London. Where I live a two bed flat would cost around £120 a week....
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27-02-2018, 10:47 AM
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Re: The cost of austerity

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Then they need to get the hell out of London. Where I live a two bed flat would cost around £120 a week....
If we all up sticks and moved who would look after people in our areas though. Even though this is a supposedly rich area in Surrey they still need nurses carers and cleaners. What we need are houses build by the state to house us cheaply. But they sold all those off.
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27-02-2018, 10:49 AM
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Re: The cost of austerity

Originally Posted by Barry ->
I can't imagine working people not being able to feed themselves unless they are making some very poor choices in their lives, and as for nurses their pay seems pretty good to me...

"Fully qualified nurses start on salaries of £22,128 rising to £28,746 on Band 5 of the NHS Agenda for Change Pay Rates. Salaries in London attract a high-cost area supplement. With experience, in positions such as nurse team leader on Band 6, salaries progress to £26,565 to £35,577."
Hi

I have to disagree Barry.

The Salaries are very low in many areas of the Country where living costs are high and it takes years to get onto Band 6, even if such a job is available.

Renting a property is very expensive in many areas of the country.

People with specialist skills are walking and being employed in the Private Sector, on much higher salaries and often contracted back.

Admittedly there is no Pension, but a doubling of your wage and a company car more than offsets this.

The Government ends up paying more for the same people.
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27-02-2018, 10:54 AM
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Re: The cost of austerity

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If we all up sticks and moved who would look after people in our areas though. Even though this is a supposedly rich area in Surrey they still need nurses carers and cleaners. What we need are houses build by the state to house us cheaply. But they sold all those off.
Perhaps if all the manual workers moved away they would have to raise the wages and reduce the rents to tempt them back....
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27-02-2018, 10:55 AM
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Re: The cost of austerity

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Perhaps if all the manual workers moved away they would have to raise the wages and reduce the rents to tempt them back....
It's a big risk and you might find what happens is the demand for your area would fuel housing costs around you instead of brought them down here.
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27-02-2018, 10:58 AM
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Re: The cost of austerity

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Hi

I have to disagree Barry.

The Salaries are very low in many areas of the Country where living costs are high and it takes years to get onto Band 6, even if such a job is available.

Renting a property is very expensive in many areas of the country.

People with specialist skills are walking and being employed in the Private Sector, on much higher salaries and often contracted back.

Admittedly there is no Pension, but a doubling of your wage and a company car more than offsets this.

The Government ends up paying more for the same people.
Not many manual workers that I know have a company car Swims, they mainly dig holes in the road or serve in a restaurant....
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27-02-2018, 11:03 AM
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Re: The cost of austerity

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Not many manual workers that I know have a company car Swims, they mainly dig holes in the road or serve in a restaurant....
I agree. Even the well paid sales staff where I work haven't had company cars in many years the taxation system made them untenable.
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27-02-2018, 11:20 AM
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Re: The cost of austerity

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Perhaps if all the manual workers moved away they would have to raise the wages and reduce the rents to tempt them back....

Total bullsh*t!!! since many of your scumbag 'nasty party' members own flats and houses all over the country, can you honestly see them agreeing to rent reductions??? Or employers (many of whom will have MP Directors) voluntarily agreeing to increase wages and salaries. These scumbags, have to dragged, kicking and screaming before they're forced to concede just one crumb off their table!!!
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27-02-2018, 12:05 PM
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Re: The cost of austerity

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Total bullsh*t!!! since many of your scumbag 'nasty party' members own flats and houses all over the country, can you honestly see them agreeing to rent reductions??? Or employers (many of whom will have MP Directors) voluntarily agreeing to increase wages and salaries. These scumbags, have to dragged, kicking and screaming before they're forced to concede just one crumb off their table!!!
Your pathological hatred of anyone that works hard and does well knows no bounds, You really are pitiful...
 
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