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12-10-2017, 11:49 AM
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Blushberry and Cannabis

We have a friend who has just been diagnosed with aggressive prostate and bladder cancer, which obviously has come as a very nasty shock to him and his family.

Yesterday the doctors were having a meeting to discuss what treatment etc they would be giving. As yet Richard doesn't know what the doctors have decided, evidently they will contact him within the next couple of days.

However Richard says he won't let them treat him until he has tried these "miraculous" cures that his hangers on (sorry, friends, Richard is very wealthy), have told him about. Of course these "friends" know many people who have survived using these "miracle cures".

One of these "miracle" cures is Blushberry, the other is some kind of refined cannabis, which he tells me is illegal in the UK but can be obtained at great expense from Holland. He is now awaiting delivery of these "miracle cures".

Despite the attempts to persuade him to listen to the doctors, or go private to a specialist anywhere in the world, which he can well afford, he is adamant that these "miracles" will cure him and the doctors are not touching him until he's tried them.

This attitude has led to, what could be described as world war 3, between himself and his daughter, who has exhausted herself trying to tell him to listen to his doctors and not his "friends". His wife is just letting it all, sort of ride over her, from the bottom of a bottle.

Having spent a lot of time the last couple of days talking to all 3 of them and the only one talking any sense is Julie, the daughter, who was planning on cancelling her family holiday this coming week, I've told her to take her holiday, take a step back and let her Dad keep throwing money at these very knowledgeable "friends". Thankfully she is going to take the holiday, she desperately needs to. The more she tries to persuade her Dad otherwise, the more he will dig his heels in.

So we are pretty much at stalemate, but I just wondered if anyone has ever heard of, or had experience of these "alternative cures".

The only think I achieved by talking to Richard, is that he has promised he will tell the doctors what he is going to be taking. I just hope he keeps his promise.
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12-10-2017, 12:09 PM
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Clumsy, I have never heard of these 'alternative' cures for these type of cancers, but let me tell you something you could pass on to him if you feel it appropriate.

My dear friend - and ex husband - had prostate cancer.
He was one of those people who thought it could never happen to him, so ignored early symptoms.

One day he collapsed. Tests were done and it was then it was discovered he had prostate cancer, but because it wasn't diagnosed in time, it had spread into his spine, hence his legs giving way.

He finally realised he needed treatment, and was put on more and more drugs as time wore on.
His legs got worse as the cancer spread, and when I met him at my Mum's funeral 3 years ago, he had put on considerable weight due to steroids, and was using a walking frame. I hardly recognised the poor man.

Recently, he nose-dived into decline.
A fortnight ago he had a bad fall and really cracked his head, bleeding profusely. I spoke to him in Dumfries Hospital last Sunday, and although he was trying to talk to me normally, I knew straightaway he was in a bad way.

He died last weekend.

I will miss him greatly. He really, really fought it, he didn't want to go.

I will never know now, but if only he had not ignored his early symptoms perhaps the ending would have been very different.

If your friend has been diagnosed and ignores sensible help, I'm afraid I think he is a fool.
Does he want to live or not.
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12-10-2017, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mups ->
Clumsy, I have never heard of these 'alternative' cures for these type of cancers, but let me tell you something you could pass on to him if you feel it appropriate.

My dear friend - and ex husband - had prostate cancer.
He was one of those people who thought it could never happen to him, so ignored early symptoms.

One day he collapsed. Tests were done and it was then it was discovered he had prostate cancer, but because it wasn't diagnosed in time, it had spread into his spine, hence his legs playing up.

He finally realised he needed treatment, and was put on more and more drugs as time wore on. His legs got worse and when I met him at my Mum's funeral 3 years ago, he had put on considerable weight due to steroids, and was using a walking frame. I hardly recognised the poor man.

Recently, he nose-dived into decline.
A fortnight ago he had a bad fall and really cracked his head, bleeding profusely. I spoke to him in Dumfries Hospital last Sunday, and although he was trying to talk to me normally, I knew straightaway he was in a bad way.

He died last weekend.

I will miss him greatly. He really, really fought it, he didn't want to go.

I will never know now, but if only he had not ignored his early symptoms perhaps the ending would have been very different.

If your friend has been diagnosed and ignores sensible help, I'm afraid I think he is a fool.
Does he want to live or not.
Thank you Mups. I am so sorry to hear about your friend. The friends I am referring to have been some of my closest friends for more years than I care to think about. I know them as well as I know myself and I've been through more traumas with them than you would think possible.

Richard really is a very stubborn, but quite gullible man. Ever since they became very rich, and I mean coming up now for 40 million pounds rich, he has of course acquired many "friends". He has fallen out with his daughter previously over these "friends", she can see them for what they are, he thinks they are wonderful. Richard appears to have blocked everything out of his head except these "miracle cures", stating to me that his positive attitude will ensure they work and that his "friends" know many people who have survived using all this stuff. Of course it doesn't occur to him that the fact that these "friends" know where and how to obtain this stuff has anything to do with it.

Poor Julie is at her wits end, Sandra, her mother, as ever just looks through the bottom of a bottle and everything will be just fine.

To add even more stress for me, Pete, the friend who collapsed with the heart problem, was rushed back to hospital
yesterday with a totally unrelated internal bleeding problem.
So later today I will be hearing from Cath what's happening now.

Thanks again Mups. I'm going to contact my Australian nurse friend just to see if she knows anything about these blushberry things. I have read a report about tests being done on animals with them but the report I read said that tests on humans hadn't been done. Since Dee is in Queensland, where these blushberry things come from, I thought she might know something about them. It's worth a try I suppose.
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12-10-2017, 12:26 PM
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I think Mups is right Clumsy. The earlier you are diagnosed with cancer, the sooner the treatment starts and that is what gives you the best chance of survival.

I suspect you friend is in denial, so tell him the sooner he accepts the diagnosis and treatment the better his chances are. I went to the docs late in May and was referred to the hospital in early June........by September my tumour was dead!
Every week he delays treatment he reduces his chances of survival!
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12-10-2017, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Twink55 ->
I think Mups is right Clumsy. The earlier you are diagnosed with cancer, the sooner the treatment starts and that is what gives you the best chance of survival.

I suspect you friend is in denial, so tell him the sooner he accepts the diagnosis and treatment the better his chances are. I went to the docs late in May and was referred to the hospital in early June........by September my tumour was dead!
Every week he delays treatment he reduces his chances of survival!


Twink is right.
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12-10-2017, 12:52 PM
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Thank you again Mups, and Twink. I know Richard is in denial. He's already had the initial biopsy op, he said the results were not good ones and the doctors were not positive there was much, if anything that could be done. The really worrying thing is that he says he will refuse any treatment until he has tried this other stuff. I quite understand how his daughter feels, wanting to knock these "friends" into the land of kingdom come.

He did promise that he would tell the doctors he would be taking this stuff, whether he does or not remains to be seen. I told him to write a list of everything he wants to know from the doctors, that way he, hopefully, won't sit there in a panic and forget to ask things.

It just makes me so angry that he has put his trust in these "friends" who know everything, no doubt for the right price.
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12-10-2017, 01:36 PM
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I get lots of spam e mails about miracle cancer cures..Blushberry being one of them.
If it was a genuine cure the experts would already be involved in the research. It may eventually turn out to be a possible cure but your friend hasn't the time to wait and find out.
Do you think his diagnosis says it is terminal cancer and he is just hoping that they can be proved wrong?

Even if the blushberry does turn out to be a cure, he hasn't got the time to wait, so he should accept a more proven method of slowing the cancer's progress, to give them the chance to research & prove it can work!
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12-10-2017, 03:37 PM
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I completely agree with you Twink, the problem is trying to get Richard to agree. I donīt know if the doctors said it was terminal, what Richard said is that they said "it didnīt look good", he said he really felt they had decided he wasnīt going to make it. I wonīt know any more until he hears from the hospital what treatment they have decided on. Iīm hoping that he will listen and take note of what the hospital doctors say. If heīs not happy with what he hears then Iīm hoping he will go private somewhere, he can well afford to.
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12-10-2017, 04:13 PM
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Sadly Ive heard all too much about the benefits of CBD oil.

Most of them vastly over exagerated. A while back we had some friends to vist and they are great fans of this stuff , I nearly smacked one of them as she tried to tell my neighbour that his mothers cancer could have been stopped or cured if only he had used CBD.

I do know people who use it with great effect, one lady has been able to give up the nasty gel she had to drink to keep her bowels working and she has been able to give up her 3 pain killers each day by replacing them with 8 drops of oil.
It also helps lower the blood sugar in diabetes sufferers,
It does help relaxation and pain relief but it is NOT a cure.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/317221.php
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12-10-2017, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by clumsy ->
Thank you again Mups, and Twink. I know Richard is in denial. He's already had the initial biopsy op, he said the results were not good ones and the doctors were not positive there was much, if anything that could be done. The really worrying thing is that he says he will refuse any treatment until he has tried this other stuff. I quite understand how his daughter feels, wanting to knock these "friends" into the land of kingdom come.

He did promise that he would tell the doctors he would be taking this stuff, whether he does or not remains to be seen. I told him to write a list of everything he wants to know from the doctors, that way he, hopefully, won't sit there in a panic and forget to ask things.

It just makes me so angry that he has put his trust in these "friends" who know everything, no doubt for the right price.


Mistake number 2, if he takes it and doesn't tell them clumsy.
People often think because something is "natural" that is can't do any harm, but it can still change the action of the medical drugs, and likewise, the drugs can change the action of the alternative rememy.

He really needs to do some in-depth research of his own and not listen to his 'friends' who are probably completely unqualified to prescribe.
 
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