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Well you've said all for me too.....I also can't endure ppl who say one thing and do another or one rule for them and a different one for others.

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Like a lot of others on here I do not suffer fools gladly. Have endured a lot of pain these past eight years having had a series of operations. Have endured nights of watch-keeping on cold, wet nights. Have endured the agonies of commuting, getting stuck with signal failures, broken down trains and snow and ice on the track.

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Good topic Jem, but is it to endure, or is it to tolerate, that is the question I suppose. Pretty much the same thing you may say, but I suppose if we consider ourselves to be civilised we must not only endure, but we must also tolerate our endurance...

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That's another way of looking at it plantman.

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spent 19 years working with children they make me happy

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Definitely Barry - I don't know how I endure being so tolerant someimes

To be pedantic (whilst being tolerant and enduring )
I think there is a significance difference in meaning between endurance and tolerance.
I don't think the limit of endurance is generally clearly defined, whereas tolerance is often well defined (particularly engineering tolerances).
For example :-

Endurance = (sufferance, stamina, resilience, or durability) the ability of an organism to exert itself and remain active for a long period of time, as well as its ability to resist, withstand, recover from, and have immunity to wounds, or fatigue.

Tolerance = the practice of permitting a thing of which one disapproves, such as social, ethnic, sexual, or religious practices.
Tolerance
in engineering and safety = to fall within specified limits, e.g size - a physical distance or space (tolerance), such as the safe clearance at which a truck (lorry), train or boat can freely pass under a bridge and not get its lid sliced off.

I always will remember my grandma telling me when I was going through a particularly rough patch that - "I would endure". When I asked what she meant she said that that throughout life I would find the resources to cope and manage and that if I remained strong and faced things bravely I would always find something within myself to deal with problems or adversity. I think these words have proved true for me and I have never forgotten the quiet and certain way she told me this. She was a wise mentor and teacher.

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Its nothing to do with "endurance", in reality its dealing with life little foibles.
just imagine if you will, the perfect scenario, a really happy care free childhood, a husband or wife that was all that you ever wanted ---children that were perfect in every way, a retirement with grandchildren who never screamed, your childrens wife or hubby being the perfect beast ---- ohhhhhhhhhhhh come on ----- that would drive you all mad.

Lifes arguement -- impatience --- trials and tribulations ---these are the things we all adore-- perhaps not at the moment they are happening --- but later , when you relate them, embellishing them as we al do, those are what make life "endurances" all worthwhile.

Its the rich tapestry in which we live, without "endurances" etc etc life would be bloody boring.

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I have to say the perfect scenario so beautifully laid out by Jonsey sounds extremely boring. I don't think any of us really ever wanted that. All the crap that life throws at us through the years is what makes us who we are. I believe it was some unpronouncable German philosopher who said "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" We learn through the years to deal with stuff and if we can't change it, we tolerate it.

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But what if we can't change it and we can't tolerate it either - do we go under? - without sufficient resilience or resources to endure it - i.e. deal with it/overcome it/come to terms with it (whatever the it may be) I think we go under - without endurance we are not bored Jonsey we are "finished" - "stuffed" - "kaput"

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Then we need medical intervention. We are engineered to deal with what life throws at us and if we are unable to do so, either by sorting it or tolerating it, then we certainly need some professional help in order to cope with life.