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I've never visited the USA Bakerman, but if I did, I would dearly love to visit Restaurants in New Orleans where they have specialist Chefs cooking soul food, also New York Deli's and Crabshacks. I've heard so much about all three, and looking at the food served makes my mouth water.
If you ever do visit, I have only one piece of advise, seek out the locals and eat where they eat. Even in New Orleans, in the French Quarter especially, there are some very , very, old famous name restaurants that make their living exclusively on the tourist trade.

As you might imagine, those places know they will never see that tourist group again , so they only put forth minimum effort. And the poor dumb tourist goes away thinking, "Wow. I ate at the world famous Antoine's Restaurant". He never knew that just a few minutes away he could have had the best meal of his life.

PS: The best crab restaurants in America are not in NYC but rather in the Baltimore area.
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Come on, are you serious ? That 'fish thing' can't be real. It must have been photo shopped. I'm having a hard time believing anyone would eat something like that.

Someone is pulling my leg. That simply must be more British humor. Truly bizarre.
Believe it or not Bakerman, it is real and is made with sardines!

https://www.checkyourfood.com/meals/...0/stargazy-pie
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22-08-2018, 11:52 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargazy_pie



Stargazy pie (sometimes called starrey gazey pie, stargazey pie and other variants) is a Cornish dish made of baked pilchards (or sardines), along with eggs and potatoes, covered with a pastry crust. Although there are a few variations with different fish being used, the unique feature of stargazy pie is fish heads (and sometimes tails) protruding through the crust, so that they appear to be gazing skyward. This allows the oils released during cooking to flow back into the pie.

The dish is traditionally held to have originated from the village of Mousehole in Cornwall and is traditionally eaten during the festival of Tom Bawcock's Eve to celebrate his heroic catch during a very stormy winter. According to the modern festival, which is combined with the Mousehole village illuminations, the entire catch was baked into a huge stargazy pie, encompassing seven types of fish and saving the village from starvation. The story of Bawcock was popularised by Antonia Barber's children's book The Mousehole Cat, which featured the star-gazy pie. In 2007 contestant Mark Hix won the BBC's Great British Menu with a variant of the dish.

A merry plaas you may believe
Woz Mowsel pon Tom Bawcock's Eve.
To be theer then oo wudn wesh
To sup o sibm soorts o fesh!

Wen morgee brath ad cleard tha path
Comed lances for a fry,
An then us had a bet o scad
An starry gazee py.

Nex cumd fermaads, braa thustee jaads
As maad ar oozles dry,
An ling an haak, enough to maak
a raunen shark to sy!

A aech wed clunk as ealth wer drunk
En bumpers bremmen y,
An wen up caam Tom Bawcock's naam
We praesed un to tha sky.
Old Cornwall 1927


Mousehole is, of course, the location of the Penlee lifeboat disaster in 1981, in which the entire lifeboat crew of eight, all villagers, was lost during an attempted rescue in hurricane-force winds.
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22-08-2018, 11:57 PM
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No offense meant Mags, but I can't look at that site you posted. I'm still sick to my stomach from remembering that horrid photo I saw this morning. it's going to take me a long time to forget it.

PS: I'm sorry you had such a bad experience with your Florida sandwich. Were you part of a tour group ? Tour group agencies often enter into an agreement with various restaurants. They negotiate, in advance, for the best possible price on a "set menu" and the tourist gets the dirty end of the stick.
Sad, but true.
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23-08-2018, 12:03 AM
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No offense meant Mags, but I can't look at that site you posted. I'm still sick to my stomach from remembering that horrid photo I saw this morning. it's going to take me a long time to forget it.

PS: I'm sorry you had such a bad experience with your Florida sandwich. Were you part of a tour group ? Tour group agencies often enter into an agreement with various restaurants. They negotiate, in advance, for the best possible price on a "set menu" and the tourist gets the dirty end of the stick.
Sad, but true.
Here is the recipe without the picture, Bakerman .....

It has healthy benefits too.

High FODMAP: Yes
Serves: 8
Prep Time: 25 Mins
Cooking Time: 55 Mins

Allergens: Fish, Eggs, Gluten, Milk

Health benefits of Stargazy pie:
The nutrients in this old English favourite from Mousehole in Cornwall may offer protection from cancer, Alzheimer's and heart disease
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2 eggs hard boiled 2 eggs hard boiled
Juice of a lemon Juice of a lemon
200g onion 200g onion
Salt and pepper to taste Salt and pepper to taste
1.4kg/8 whole sardines 1.4kg/8 whole sardines
500g ready made short crust pastry 500g ready made short crust pastry
90g/4 rashers streaky bacon 90g/4 rashers streaky bacon
Method

1) Preheat the oven to 200C, gas mark 6.
2) Roll out ⅔ of the pastry to cover the sides and base of a 20cm shallow pie dish. Brush the edges with milk.
3) Finely chop the onions, eggs and bacon and place into the bottom of the pie dish, along with the seasoning.
4) Roll out the remaining pastry and cover the top of the pie. Trim the excess then crimp the edges.
5) Carefully cut slits into the pasty, hold open with the blade of a knife, and gently push the whole fish into the slots, leaving just the heads or tails showing.
6) Add the lemon juice and then seal the slits.
7) Coat the now completed pie with a beaten egg.
8) Cook for around 30 minutes, until golden brown.
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23-08-2018, 12:08 AM
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Regarding our holiday in Florida, it was a family holiday where we did our own thing. This was in 2010 and I'm afraid I have forgotten the name of the restaurant. It was supposed to contain chicken but whatever was with it was inedible. I suppose we were unlucky and picked the wrong place
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23-08-2018, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mags ->
Regarding our holiday in Florida, it was a family holiday where we did our own thing. This was in 2010 and I'm afraid I have forgotten the name of the restaurant. It was supposed to contain chicken but whatever was with it was inedible. I suppose we were unlucky and picked the wrong place
Hmm. Based on the little I could see in your sandwich photo, it may have been a "chicken salad" sandwich. Kind of like a "tuna salad" but with chicken instead. Never cared for chicken salad myself. Yes, it sounds like you were just unlucky in your choice of a restaurant.

PS: While in Florida, did you happen to have a slice of "Key Lime Pie"? IMO, one of the best pies I've ever had. Florida is famous for their Key Lime Pie.
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23-08-2018, 01:17 AM
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Talking about food, has anyone heard about the latest flavour Ice-Cream that many are raving over.... invented in the UK of course. A creamery in Falkirk, Scotland is working overtime to get it to the shops apparently.
It is.............Mayonnaise Ice-Cream!! and apparently proving very popular. My goodness, whatever happened to Vanilla, Strawberry and Chocolate?
I haven't heard of it Shrop, but the latest I am going crazy over here is "Shark attack". It is so delicious. It is a blue-green (representing the water, I guess) and strawberry liquid represently the blood. I just love it. I must watch for the mayo you are talking about. I love trying new things....especially ice cream...
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Wow ST, that sounds gorgeous. I will have a go at making that dish. Thank you for the recipe. x
Let us know how you like it Shrop...and you will find it so simple and quick....
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This is how the Victorians did it.
Looks delicious John
 
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