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03-11-2017, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Realist ->
On the other hand if you'd had any semblance of an open mind prior to that point and done the research and as a result been active in eating the right foods, nuts, seeds and fruits then you wouldn't have been in the dire predicament you found yourself in would you?

This whole thing is as much about prevention as it is cure.

I do have an open mind and do research. I have done an excellent job of controlling my diabetes over 30 years.... so I sincerely hope that you are not suggesting that my cxancer was all my own fault.

No I couldn't. I simply encourage people to look at the facts and DO THE RESEARCH because the answers are out there. You haven't done any research, you haven't looked at the facts. Your experience, whilst thankfully a positive one, is entirely anecdotal. Meaningless. Whilst you run about telling people how great chemo is, hundreds of people are surely being killed by it. They may get a few extra months/years but it kills them early and gives them a reduced quality of life in that period. Many of them need not have died at all.

Such statistics were freely available some years ago and it was well known and accepted that doctors themselves would never go near Chemo. These days the Big Pharma totally control the media so you're not going to get the truth from mainstream health industry "stooge" sources.



No it isn't sadly. No more than rolling a 6 on a die is proof that the die always comes up 6.

But this is all academic and rather pointless. Your mind is closed on this issue so pointless go round the cycle every time TBH.
I do have an open mind and do research. I have done an excellent job of controlling my diabetes over 30 years.... so I sincerely hope that you are not suggesting that my cancer was all my own fault.

You base all your ideas on what you read on the internet, so perhaps you should search for statistics that demonstrate that they are just A N Other's opinion so never fact.
I am not going to discuss this further with you, other than to say that you should mind your own business on how others deal with their health problems. I also hope that nobody fighting cancer, on this forum, will be influenced by your opinions and make a decision that proves to be fatal!
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03-11-2017, 01:47 PM
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Well said Twink. There are far too many snake oil salesmen on the internet.
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03-11-2017, 02:04 PM
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I sincerely hope that you are not suggesting that my cancer was all my own fault.
I'm curious then. Whose fault do you believe it was that your cancer got to such a stage that it got to a life/death situation ?

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You base all your ideas on what you read on the internet, so perhaps you should search for statistics that demonstrate that they are just A N Other's opinion so never fact.
This is a ridiculous comment. A wide sweeping statement that suggests the entire internet is bunkum. There are respectable, international companies with presence on the internet, companies like the Cochrane Institute which is the defacto global industry company for medical research. When such a company tells you in no uncertain terms that the flu vaccine is pure snake oil, utterly useless, then you sit up and listen unless you are a hopeless naïve Neanderthal.

Sure there are bogus sites all over the internet and misinformation and the task of sifting the good from the bad, the right from the wrong is arduous and takes time and patience. Comes down to whether you can be bothered to get to the truth or not or whether you just want to sit on your arse and ask for others to hand you the proof on a plate.

Originally Posted by Twink55 ->
I am not going to discuss this further with you, other than to say that you should mind your own business on how others deal with their health problems.
I'm not commenting on how others deal with their issues. I'm commenting on an open forum in a thread that was discussing the predicament of a specific person, where advice was asked for. I simply said that the man in question, Richard, was entirely right to do his research and explore all of the natural cures before leaping towards the awful standard health industry treatments.

I think it was you that jumped in with size 12 boots to yet again try and stifle the debate with your repeated "it worked for me so that proves it's good" mantra which as I have pointed out is nothing but anecdotal evidence.

Originally Posted by Twink55 ->
I also hope that nobody fighting cancer, on this forum, will be influenced by your opinions and make a decision that proves to be fatal!
I equally hope that no-one on this forum will follow your advice to go straight for the horrific Big Pharma "Big 3" treatment pathway of "Cut, Poison and Burn" without first exploring and trying the primary natural cures out there.

I equally hope that no-one on the forum will be foolish enough to ignore the cancer threat and sit and wait for it to just happen to them and that they will instead take action NOW to proactively research the many anti-cancer foods, herbs and protocols to keep cancer away.
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03-11-2017, 02:21 PM
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Realist you suggest that people explore and try natural remedies before resorting to what you deem to be the "Big3".
When I had my first bowel cancer at 30, I had lost three stones in weight and needed six units of blood before they could operate. My surgeon told me that had we waited another month I would not have made it. So anyone who follows your advice could well be too late.
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03-11-2017, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CeeCee ->
Realist you suggest that people explore and try natural remedies before resorting to what you deem to be the "Big3".
When I had my first bowel cancer at 30, I had lost three stones in weight and needed six units of blood before they could operate. My surgeon told me that had we waited another month I would not have made it. So anyone who follows your advice could well be too late.
According to him CeeCee, they wouldn't get cancer if they listened to him.
It is a bit like saying
If you don't have alcohol your liver will always be healthy,
or, If you don't eat animal fat you will never have a hearty attack.........but people still do have the problems!
We will all die eventually but pharmaceuticals can often help to delay that event.
Who wants to live on seeds fruit and nuts forever, in the false hope that you will not die?
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03-11-2017, 02:59 PM
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Again, and like Twink, you are not listening.

My advice is to do the research NOW and to take action NOW before you get cancer or before it becomes a problem. So, to be clear, you had your first bowel cancer at 30. So how much preventative foods, herbs etc had you taken and for how many years before you got to 30? My guess is that you hadn't even considered the research or looked at natural anti-cancer products before you realised you had cancer.

When you leave problems to get to such a state that it's a life and death situation then really you've already lost the battle and are forcing yourself down a specific path of treatment with all the adverse problems it comes with.

The same is true for lots of lesser ailments.

For example if you begin to get a tooth infection or if you begin to suffer initial symptoms of cold/flu then you have a choice. You can take action right there and then and use natural things to boost your body's immune system, or you can sit and wait until it's out of control and then go reaching for mainstream health service treatments, antibiotics, viral drugs and so on.

Tooth infection and abscess can be treated very efficiently and easily with a variety of products including but not limited to Grapefruit Seed Extract, Liquorice Root capsules and anything with high levels of Vit C. I've been there, I've done it, I know it works but my evidence is anecdotal, but the greater evidence out there is what steered me to those products and as a result my success adds to the overall statistics.

Cold/flu symptoms can be treated very easily using lemons, ginger, garlic, cayenne pepper and a host of other natural products. Again, I've proven that to myself time and time again. Mainstream products will treat the symptoms, not the root cause and as such are snake oil.

Norovirus is rampant across the country at all times and especially in hospitals and other places full of people. It spreads like wildfire due to people's general bad hygiene habits. It causes awful sickness and diarrhoea for about 2-3 days incapacitating the victim. I contracted this virus on a cruise a few years ago. The ship's doctor told me to take paracetamol to bring down my fever and to ride it out and that it would take min 2 days before I would recover.

Knowing what I know, I refused his advice. Taking paracetamol to reduce fever simply obstructs the body's natural defences. It's terrible advice that could actually kill an older person, but GPs are told how to operate and follow the "book" of Big Pharma.

Your body raises its temperature because doing so stops bugs and viruses from replicating. That's the first line of defence for any invading organism that spreads by multiplication/replication. You first stop it multiplying, then your white cells march off and kill the virus the exists at that point.

Take paracetamol to force your fever down and you strip away that natural first line of defence. The virus continues to replicate and multiply every 20 mins and very soon it overruns the body. Unless you have a fantastic immune system your body is working overdrive to kill viruses but loses the battle because they keep replicating in ever increasing numbers.

In elderly people, whose immune systems are often compromised, this is the difference between living and dying. One small uninformed ignorant piece of advice, to take paracetamol to force a fever down, is the difference between that person naturally combatting the virus or being totally overrun by it and ending up in hospital with pneumonia and dying. It's that simple.

Long story cut short. I knew enough to know that the doctor was brainwashed with mainstream Big Pharma treatment protocol and took responsibility for my own health. I allowed my body to maintain the fever and I took Grapefruit Seed Extract in water to kill off all the bugs in my stomach. I was fully recovered in 12 hours for a condition that generally goes on for 72 hours.

None of this stuff is particularly difficult. It's all out there to be Googled and researched and it could very easily save your life and/or save you many days of needless suffering and days off work, not to mention saving plenty of money otherwise spent on useless potions and pills.

People need to wake up. The health industry is just not what most think it is. It exists for profit and Big Pharmaceuticals are making many $billions from your illnesses. The Cancer game is one of the best little earners.
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04-11-2017, 07:28 PM
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After reading the last few posts, I'm needing to say, but struggling to put down in words, what I want to say.

If a person chooses to take their path in life which is different from our own, then so be it. But it doesn't mean if we all took the same path we would all have the same outcome.

Cancers, and how they behave, the treatment options (be they natural, conventional or combined), and the final outcome will not necessarily be the same as the next persons, even if it's the same 'type'.
Each person's cancer is unique to them for many reasons - lifestyle, predisposition, from working in carcinogenic environments, inherited faulty gene etc.

So regarding the two different subjects of prevention or treatment - 'One size doesn't fit all'.

Clumsy.... I just read your last post about Richard. I know it's hard accepting his decision, but it's his choice. He needs to go the way he feels he wants to go. He might change his mind....
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04-11-2017, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Pesta ->
After reading the last few posts, I'm needing to say, but struggling to put down in words, what I want to say.

If a person chooses to take their path in life which is different from our own, then so be it. But it doesn't mean if we all took the same path we would all have the same outcome.

Cancers, and how they behave, the treatment options (be they natural, conventional or combined), and the final outcome will not necessarily be the same as the next persons, even if it's the same 'type'.
Each person's cancer is unique to them for many reasons - lifestyle, predisposition, from working in carcinogenic environments, inherited faulty gene etc.

So regarding the two different subjects of prevention or treatment - 'One size doesn't fit all'.

Clumsy.... I just read your last post about Richard. I know it's hard accepting his decision, but it's his choice. He needs to go the way he feels he wants to go. He might change his mind....
Thank you Pesta. You are quite right. We've all tried, but he is quite determined to go down the route he has chosen. Evidently this stuff has to be used for 3 months. He has been booked in for another scan in 3 months time, so it's a waiting game, nothing more to be said or done at the present time.
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05-11-2017, 06:17 PM
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he is quite determined to go down the route he has chosen.
Good for him. Our health is our own responsibility, no-one else's.

Originally Posted by clumsy ->
Evidently this stuff has to be used for 3 months. He has been booked in for another scan in 3 months time, so it's a waiting game, nothing more to be said or done at the present time.
Yep. Natural cures and treatments which tackle the root cause take much longer than synthetic "solutions" which tend to treat the symptoms. I'm not entirely sure he is going for the right natural options but time will tell. I would have liked to see him try Amygdalin rich foods.
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05-02-2018, 08:04 PM
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I've resurrected this thread with the latest update on our friend, some people may be interested.

He's now been on the cannabis and blushberry stuff for the duration he was supposed to take it. He was quite convinced it was working, he said he could feel things happening.

Well they were indeed happening, the tumours have grown. He had his scan last Monday and was in Edinburgh this morning to see the specialists and get the results.

He has now been offered radio therapy, which he is going to have, the sooner the better, he was told. Hopefully it will start sometime this week.
He has to stay in hospital for a week, will be allowed home at the weekend, then back in hospital for another week. It will be more scans then, and well we can only wait and see.

Fortunately he has a couple of friends who will go and see to the animals and keep the farm running for him.
 
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