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Our success in the future will be determined by our Politicians, their skill in managing the economy and carrying out the many reforms we need.

I am not particularly encouraged by either Party at the moment.

As regards the EU and them giving us a bad deal.

We will get what we get, we are now a third country, our choice.

They will not give us any more than Canada, South Korea or Japan got.

Our aim of getting Canada Plus Plus Plus is sheer nonsense.

There is a simple reason for this. all three Trade Deals above have clauses in them, if they allow us access to their service markets they will have to do the same to the others, which they simply will not do.

It would be madness for them to do so.

We will not allow open access to all our services either, it would be madness for us to do so as well.
Some of us don't want all you list.

Some of us just want out, our sovereignty, and no blackmail payments to the EU.

We can trade under WTO rules until we have arranged our own deals.
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Some of us don't want all you list.

Some of us just want out, our sovereignty, and no blackmail payments to the EU.

We can trade under WTO rules until we have arranged our own deals.
I can't see why the fear of wto it seems a sensible system to me.
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
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The EU is not breaking up, it will change as a result of Brexit, but it will not dissolve.

What happens to it is now basically nothing to do with us , we have chosen to leave and tread our own path.
I agree. Leave them to it and keep out of it.

Nevertheless, I firmly believe that it will either develop into a 'Fourth Reich' or it will collapse and countries will leave one by one.

We shall see.
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29-12-2017, 05:33 PM
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Well said, Julia.

First Brexit - a proper Brexit, as voted for by the majority.

Then reform of the Lords, into an elected body of far fewer members.
That would get many peoples vote I believe, we aren't alone wanting it JBR
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29-12-2017, 05:34 PM
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I agree. Leave them to it and keep out of it.

Nevertheless, I firmly believe that it will either develop into a 'Fourth Reich' or it will collapse and countries will leave one by one.

We shall see.
Once the cash cow is gone I can't see Eastern Europe wanting to follow orders, they are pretty fed up now and we are bankrolling them.
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In a nutshell we are in the more.

Did you mean in the mire? or a ruder word?
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It would be incredibly stupid for countries such as Poland and Hungary to leave the EU. Their current governments leave much to be desired.
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I can't see why the fear of wto it seems a sensible system to me.
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It is our own Government, including Boris, Gove, Fox and Davies, those who led Brexit who want a deal.

The reason is very simple, WTO Rules only cover food and manufactured goods.

Most of our Exports are Services, which are not covered.

We need to export to be able to buy imports
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By the way, what happens to the EU is everything to do with us. As has been said by many, we are not leaving Europe. It's still our most proximate and largest trading partner, we are still all in a defence alliance, we are still interdependent. We are not moving to Mars, although some people seem to think so...
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29-12-2017, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
Did you mean in the mire? or a ruder word?
From a very old film Hound Of The Baskervilles'.
"Watson, where are you, Watson?"
"I'm in the bog!"
 
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