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12-09-2017, 10:56 AM
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Chronic shortage of skilled workers

I can only ask why?

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12-09-2017, 11:24 AM
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When Thatcher came to power firms stopped taking on apprentices in our area. I am an Electrician.

They the added labourers who basically swept up and got supplies, as the average age otf sparks was in their fifties then gaps opened up as many left due to injuries at work and looked to relocate to easier work.

So its no surprise we are short of good tradesmen now,it was the same in many other trades and factories short term profit motivated policy's.

As for the wages stated well ive never made that sort of money, and i worked 7 days and 12 hour shifts often.
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12-09-2017, 11:37 AM
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Think we can look at Tony Blair for this one

With everyone at university, there's no one training to be the next generation of skilled workers
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12-09-2017, 11:45 AM
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Poor old Maggie still being blamed for all the working class woes then, what a load of old cobblers!

One of the main reasons for the shortage now is the financial crash ten years ago which virtually stopped construction in it's tracks. Many of the more experienced men left the industry and took up other jobs to get by, and by the time the industry wanted them back they had moved on. Another reason for the shortage of course, in spite of record government spending on apprenticeship schemes was the push to get all of the kids into going to university rather than into traditional skill based employment the rewards of which we are reaping now with a whole generation of low skilled graduates who have been led to believe there is an easier life for them if only they have been to uni.

The whole thing a travesty generated by the last Labour government giving false hope to a section of youth completely unsuited to that level of academic education but who now still expect more....
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12-09-2017, 11:47 AM
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Everyone wants to be in IT, init.
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12-09-2017, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Barry ->
Poor old Maggie still being blamed for all the working class woes then, what a load of old cobblers!

One of the main reasons for the shortage now is the financial crash ten years ago which virtually stopped construction in it's tracks. Many of the more experienced men left the industry and took up other jobs to get by, and by the time the industry wanted them back they had moved on. Another reason for the shortage of course, in spite of record government spending on apprenticeship schemes was the push to get all of the kids into going to university rather than into traditional skill based employment the rewards of which we are reaping now with a whole generation of low skilled graduates who have been led to believe there is an easier life for them if only they have been to uni.

The whole thing a travesty generated by the last Labour government giving false hope to a section of youth completely unsuited to that level of academic education but who now still expect more....
This is so sad all those kids not only unable to get the good jobs they hoped for but burdened with incredible amounts of student debt.
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12-09-2017, 12:01 PM
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Going back many years now, after i got made redundant from the office i'd been working in. I did one of those 6mth training courses that the Govt ran at the time. I did one for a motor mechanic, not because i wanted to work in a garage, just because i enjoyed fixing my own car, and that gave me the opportunity to learn a bit more. In the Centre that did the training were plumbers; electricians; bricklayers etc etc. Most like me were only doing the training so that they could fix up their own houses, But some went into the trade they'd learnt, a few started up as self-employed.
I always felt sorry for any customers that were paying out for work they did, 'cos here we were with 6mths training going out and doing work that others had served a 5yr apprenticship to do. Working on your own house is one thing, but going out to pretend you're a plumber/electrician in the real world.
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12-09-2017, 12:18 PM
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I've always told my kids that no job is beneath them, that they should find a job they really want to do because they are a long time at work. But I see many other parents saying the opposite, they encourage the kids to reach for the stars and then wonder why they can't get a plumber. My sil and bil said same as me and one of theirs has become a gas man and the other works for water board, but they get a lot of critisism because they didn't aim higher.
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12-09-2017, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Barry ->
Poor old Maggie still being blamed for all the working class woes then, what a load of old cobblers!

One of the main reasons for the shortage now is the financial crash ten years ago which virtually stopped construction in it's tracks. Many of the more experienced men left the industry and took up other jobs to get by, and by the time the industry wanted them back they had moved on. Another reason for the shortage of course, in spite of record government spending on apprenticeship schemes was the push to get all of the kids into going to university rather than into traditional skill based employment the rewards of which we are reaping now with a whole generation of low skilled graduates who have been led to believe there is an easier life for them if only they have been to uni.

The whole thing a travesty generated by the last Labour government giving false hope to a section of youth completely unsuited to that level of academic education but who now still expect more....
I saw it first hand Barry apprenticeships disappeared at an alarming rate and were not replaced on her watch. She wasted people but will agree Blair was a useless Tory Light,and both Cons and Lab have let working people down whichever is in power.
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12-09-2017, 12:35 PM
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I have two grandsons. The elder one hated school and had no interest in further education. Although his parents were disappointed, they let him leave after his GCSE's because he wanted to work with wood. He constantly badgered a local craftsman carpenter and worked odd jobs for him and eventually was given an apprenticeship. He went on to do bespoke joinery and is now self-employed and still thoroughly enjoying it and the financial reward.

His brother (the bright one!) went on to university studying law and is awaiting exam results as a solicitor, specialising in criminal law.
 
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