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26-11-2017, 11:41 AM
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Re: Dash cams.

The only time my Nextbase suction mount fails is when the car is parked facing strong sunlight for an excessive amount of time, e.g. a whole summer's day.
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26-11-2017, 11:42 AM
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Re: Dash cams.

Originally Posted by Emjay ->
When I was playing with the Nextbase that I mentioned earlier, I also found that the suction mount was coming off at inconvenient times.
Yes, I have used the self adhesive mount for both my car and my wife's. These have never failed and, in fact, are very difficult to remove.

If and when we buy a new car, we can buy additional adhesive mounts rather than attempt to remove the existing ones. They are only a few pounds. The same applies if we ever have the need to replace a windscreen.
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27-11-2017, 11:51 AM
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Re: Dash cams.

Originally Posted by realspeed ->
Why not get a nextbase dashcam and hard wire it? no need for any battery fiddling and making sure it is charged up. They are the best according to all reports I have read.
Our Mobius cameras ARE hard wired as explained in earlier posts. But they can equally run from the internal batteries if required and will provide 2 hrs of full HD recording.

The various "reports" about dashcams, like all technical devices, are simply biased propaganda articles funded by the manufacturers. Search for the best PVR recorders for example and the typical junkie sites (Which? etc) will all wax lyrical about Sky Plus boxes which for years have actually been completely under spec'd compared to other brands.

Why would I not get a Nextbase camera ?, because they are large indiscrete devices the size of sat navs. Leaving one inside your car on full display would be utterly foolhardy.
Having to remove it and put it back each and every time you leave the car would be a complete nuisance and who wants to be carrying a sat nav sized device in their jacket pocket all day ?!!

This picture from some internet site shows the tiny size and scale of the Mobius:



It can be installed extremely discretely and thus left in the car permanently.

Even better, you can buy an extension cable for the actual camera lens which allows you to remove the lens and install that separately to the rest of the unit. So for example I can install the main camera body inside the ceiling unit of my car where the light switches are and other stuff and have only the tiny camera lens visible by drilling a tiny hole in the front of that unit.

Then you have a completely integrated, hidden and secure dashcam that thieves won't see let alone be able to take.

These enormous "nextbase" and other cameras are simply impractical. Gone are the days when people want to carry the equivalent of digital cameras around with them like the old Canon Ixus models. It's bad enough people having to lug huge smart phones around which simply don't fit in the average trouser pocket.

The Mobius is smaller than a matchbox, completely indiscrete and therefore scores massively over the competition which is bulkier, cumbersome, can't be left in the car and a nuisance to carry about.

TBH the picture you put up (copied below) highlights perfectly my points:



That is a relatively huge unit and is plainly visible to thieves.
Even if you detached the camera unit every time you get in and out of the car (which eventually you will get bored of and won't do) you will leave the suction housing attached to the windscreen which equally tells thieves there is a dashcam or sat nav in the car. They will break in assuming you've stupidly left it in the glove compartment, which of course many dim motorists actually do !
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27-11-2017, 12:10 PM
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Re: Dash cams.

I can't find any hard wire kit for the Mobius dashcam on the internet
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27-11-2017, 12:13 PM
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Re: Dash cams.

Originally Posted by realspeed ->
I can't find any hard wire kit for the Mobius dashcam on the internet
What "kit" would you be expecting?

All you need is a long USB cable as per the ones I already linked to in this thread.

As stated in last post too, you can buy the extension cable for the actual lens which looks like this:



So then you can install the tiny lens anywhere and hide the main unit.
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27-11-2017, 12:17 PM
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Re: Dash cams.

One like Nextbase have
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27-11-2017, 12:39 PM
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Re: Dash cams.

Originally Posted by realspeed ->
One like Nextbase have
Sorry mate but the concept of hardwiring your Nextbase is just ridiculous. The camera is too big, too visible.

If you plan on leaving it inside your car you may as well tape 5 x £20 notes to the windscreen and hope that no-one breaks in to steal them.

Anyone who buys a dashcam like this, and the market is awash with them, is consigning themselves to having to remove the unit every time they leave the car and put it back every time they come back. Aside from the strain that puts on connections which will eventually fail, you've then got to lug that unit around with you every where you go.

The entire concept is poorly thought out and a practical disaster.

Even if you do remove the unit every time, you are still forced to leave the tell-tale windscreen suction (or other) housing which tells thieves you have a camera or sat nav. So they may well break into the car anyway just in case you left it inside somewhere.

The tiny action cameras, of which there are a fair few on the market fit the dashcam requirement perfectly. Some are better than others. The Mobius is an absolute winner, with its full HD recording, fully configurable interface, loop recording and other features.
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27-11-2017, 01:08 PM
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Re: Dash cams.

Although as I said earlier, I have and use a Möbius as a dash cam amongst other uses. It does not have ‘G force’ function that saves the incident as a separate file on the card.
It don’t have GPS so that it also saves location in the file.
I think there could be other options that dedicated dashcams have, and the Möbius does not.
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27-11-2017, 01:26 PM
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Re: Dash cams.

Originally Posted by Emjay ->
It does not have ‘G force’ function that saves the incident as a separate file on the card.
It don’t have GPS so that it also saves location in the file.
I think there could be other options that dedicated dashcams have, and the Möbius does not.
None of these "features" are remotely needed for the purpose of recording an incident.

Anyone who has a dashcam and is involved in an accident will, in that same day, plug their camera into a computer and download the footage to their PC/Laptop to both review it and keep a backup copy of it safe and sound.

Therefore the "G Force" feature of some cameras is completely and utterly redundant.

Anyone who has a dashcam and only puts a tiny little SD card in it is frankly an idiot. You need a card big enough to record many hours of footage at high (full HD) resolution.
Otherwise you could be in a long car trip from one end of the country to the other and find your loop recording overwriting earlier parts of the journey.

"G Force" features are a gimmick and a useless one at that. There are numerous reports that various bumps and jolts along an average car journey cause the G Force to be triggered thus creating lots of parts of the SD card that can't be overwritten. Not a good thing.

The other feature, having in-built GPS is equally a gimmick and unnecessary. The camera footage itself will adequately proof conclusively where the accident took place. The claimant is going to provide details to the insurance company of the location, street name, time, date, weather conditions etc. It would be ridiculously easy to prove where the footage was taken by having anyone go to that location and compare the footage with reality. Of course that's just never going to be needed is it. I mean no-one is going to lie about where the accident took place IF there is dashcam footage.

So, GPS, another totally redundant "feature" of some silly dashcams which serves only to draw far more battery power to fuel that GPS chip. Rather pointless imo.

The dashcam world is sadly being crafted along the lines of dumb motorists who are not tech savvy and they are piling gimmicks into them because dumb people think gimmicks are important.

The most important aspect of any dashcam is good high resolution footage in both day and night conditions, end of.
The next most important aspects are portability and discreteness imo.

Nextbase don't have a great reputation for build quality. There are lots of bad reviews out there from people whose devices packed in after 1 year. There's more to go wrong with a device that not only records but also has a built in viewing LCS screen and all the associated controls and operating firmware (play,pause, FFwd etc etc). All of that totally unnecessary.

You can watch recorded footage in the comfort of your own home on a computer with any dashcam so a viewing screen is entirely not necessary. The screen is responsible for the ridiculous size and bulk of those dashcams and for the battery drain.

Each to their own of course but I find the current market of mainstream dashcams utterly farcical.
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27-11-2017, 05:53 PM
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Re: Dash cams.

Originally Posted by Emjay ->
When I was playing with the Nextbase that I mentioned earlier, I also found that the suction mount was coming off at inconvenient times.
I may have mentioned earlier...press down hard on the suction cup before pressing the clamp lever.
 
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