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08-10-2017, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Rainmaker ->
Give me a specific where people have died due to Conservative policies. What you are actually saying is The government is guilty of at least manslaughter, which is the type of outrageous claim likely to be made by Joe. Do you not think that the Police would be involved were it true?
There are so many cases of sanctions on benefits and people having no money for weeks, people have committed suicide rather than face tests to prove they should get benefits.

Pop suicides due to benefit cuts into Google and you can pick a newspaper you prefer to tell you how over 80 people have died unnecessarily due to cuts. From The mirror, independent, guardian, times and several others.
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08-10-2017, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Rainmaker ->
Give me a specific where people have died due to Conservative policies. What you are actually saying is The government is guilty of at least manslaughter, which is the type of outrageous claim likely to be made by Joe. Do you not think that the Police would be involved were it true?

Took all of five seconds research to find this:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...nt-dwp-figures

Now try and deny it and find some lame excuse for it!!!
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08-10-2017, 12:50 PM
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Joe, it is a newspaper article in a left wing newspaper. The opinion of a journalist. If it is true why are the Police not prosecuting, or even investigating . These thing happen under every government, they did under the last Labour government and would continue even under Corbyn. You cannot hold people responsible for suicides. That life.
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08-10-2017, 12:57 PM
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That's why o said google it you can take what paper you want from the list.
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08-10-2017, 01:06 PM
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How about David Clapson in Stevenage 3 or 4 years ago? He died penniless because his benefits had been stopped and he had no money to keep the electricity on to run his fridge to keep his insulin cool.
More details here: http://www.thecomet.net/news/campaig...port-1-4494354
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08-10-2017, 01:12 PM
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Makes me cry thinking about people like David, we are a rich country no matter what anyone says and he didn't need to die we could have helped him.
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08-10-2017, 01:14 PM
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Then there's this:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-death-3194250


I wonder what lame excuse the 'nasty party' faction will come up with to excuse this???
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08-10-2017, 01:15 PM
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Seriously ... is it a serious suggestion that the Tories are culpable of murder or manslaughter?
And that no one has ever committed suicide or suffered under a Labour government? No one went to any wars? No one was evicted from their home? No one ever went bankrupt?
Sounds like a sojourn into The Lost Horizon with Julie Andrews complete with flouncing fluffy skirts skipping around in Shangri-La.
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08-10-2017, 01:20 PM
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It's never been like this morti, I know mistakes have always happened and that's unforgivable but no government has ever gone after benefit claimants in the way they have recently. They have an ethos that assumes everyone can look after themselves and they have to be forced to do so. When anyone with smallest amount of empathy know that's not true. Some will always need help to cope.
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08-10-2017, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Julie1962 ->
Well that shows you haven't read half the threads that have been started by Uj or many of the articles in newspapers over the last few years. People have died due to tories policies, families split and people are on the street dud to them. It's going to get worse as universal credit is wheeled out too. Coming to a council near you soon, homeless people due to a six week wait for a rent payment.
Hmmm... I'm disappointed with the hammer & sickle comment. Many more people died in Soviet Russia because of famine and shortages. Never mind the forced labour, march of death to gulags, secret executions, torture etc. Not a positive symbol for socialism.
 
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