17-10-2017, 10:31 AM
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Re: May and Davis to travel to Brussels for urgent Brexit talks
Originally Posted by JBR
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Of course they are, and their own interests include keeping every other member country under their aegis and, while they're at it, extracting as much money from us that they can before we leave.They'll do it too, because our politicians are too weak to do otherwise.
The WTO members who have lodged complaints are not seeking to keep us under their control and yet are doing so to protect their own interests.
That is the way of life and is far more dangerous to our plans for the future than the EU are.
It has nothing to do with Politicians caving in to demands, it is all to do with negotiating power.
You can have Jacob Rees Mogg and Co, the effect would be the same, pay up or have a Hard Brexit.
17-10-2017, 01:39 PM
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Re: May and Davis to travel to Brussels for urgent Brexit talks
Originally Posted by JBR
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And don't forget that the sky will fall down! 
All joking apart JBR, we both voted for Brexit, we both knew that things would be difficult for a time until we realigned ourselves.
We have the four principal Tory Brexiteers from the Leave Campaign in very senior positions in Government.
Boris, Davies, Fox and Gove.
So far, they have not delivered on any of the promises that they made during the Referendum Campaign.
I find this unacceptable.
17-10-2017, 01:44 PM
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Re: May and Davis to travel to Brussels for urgent Brexit talks
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiAll joking apart JBR, we both voted for Brexit, we both knew that things would be difficult for a time until we realigned ourselves.
We have the four principal Tory Brexiteers from the Leave Campaign in very senior positions in Government.
Boris, Davies, Fox and Gove.
So far, they have not delivered on any of the promises that they made during the Referendum Campaign.
I find this unacceptable.
We need some better politicians, like Jacob Rees-Mogg for example.
17-10-2017, 02:04 PM
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Re: May and Davis to travel to Brussels for urgent Brexit talks
Originally Posted by Meg
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I doesn't matter who is put in charge of the 'negotiations' if one side has a set agenda you will not progress unless they are prepared to concede a little ground.
Our only consequence is to walk.
Unfortunately, Mrs Maybe hasn't got the balls to walk away and continues her pointless 'negotiating'.
She has, of course, already given concessions of her own: to continue to pay them for a two years extension. After that, we are likely to be in exactly the same position, so perhaps another two years for further generous payments.
And so our membership of the EU will continue indefinitely.
17-10-2017, 02:08 PM
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Re: May and Davis to travel to Brussels for urgent Brexit talks
Originally Posted by JBR
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You're perfectly correct, but I am sure that the EU are not prepared to concede anything.Our only consequence is to walk.
Unfortunately, Mrs Maybe hasn't got the balls to walk away and continues her pointless 'negotiating'.
She has, of course, already given concessions of her own: to continue to pay them for a two years extension. After that, we are likely to be in exactly the same position, so perhaps another two years for further generous payments.
And so our membership of the EU will continue indefinitely.
It is impossible to just walk away unless we are ready for WTO Rules.
We are not, and therein lies the problem.
17-10-2017, 02:36 PM
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Re: May and Davis to travel to Brussels for urgent Brexit talks
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiIt is impossible to just walk away unless we are ready for WTO Rules.
We are not, and therein lies the problem.
Will we ever be ready?
Will we ever achieve independence from the EU?
19-10-2017, 07:43 PM
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Re: May and Davis to travel to Brussels for urgent Brexit talks
Originally Posted by Purwell
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Why don't we just starve to death?
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