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Diesel Car issues - but not Trucks/Lorries/Buses!

The Powers that Be are going after the Diesel Car Divers in a big way.

In spite of the fact that the Government was pushing for drivers to use Diesel not long ago!

But why do Lorries & Busses get missed out of every discussion?

In my opinion they are the biggest hitters in the argument!
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06-05-2017, 08:34 PM
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You've got that right, especially double-deckers pumping out their sooty filth. The double-deckers run around practically empty where I am so in my opinion they should get rid of them in favour of something like a Turkish Dolmus - smaller and less polluting. Getting traffic to flow through towns and cities easier would also reduce the pollution from stationary traffic. Vehicles only work at their optimum efficiency when travelling in a high gear, not stuck in second and third. This could be achieved by getting rid of bus lanes or restricting them to certain times, this would open up extra lanes for traffic. Having permanent bus lanes 24/7 and having cameras to penalise cars if they wander in to them only add to the congestion.
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06-05-2017, 09:33 PM
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It's all borax, petrol vehicles chuck out just as much pollution as diesels. The government don't like people to save money, it's not doing anybody any good laying dormant, they want you to put it back into the economy by spending it thereby providing more jobs. So they come up with inventive ways of getting you to part with it. First by telling you that Diesel vehicles are better for the environment, and now by telling you they are not.

Also by allowing you to take a lump sum out of your pension pot, they know people will be silly and buy cars, holidays and other things that will put the money back into the economy.
While it's locked up in your pension it's doing nobody any good....But it is creating the perfect storm.
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06-05-2017, 09:40 PM
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Diesel engines above a certain size (3 litres ?), as fitted in many commercial vehicles, are legally required to have more complex exhaust systems and so the nitrogen oxides (NOx) are removed. The way it works is that the vehicle carries supplies of a liquid called "AdBlue" which is sprayed in to the exhaust system and reacts with the NOx to break it down. There's no reason why it couldn't be used on future cars, but you couldn't retro-fit it.

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07-05-2017, 12:21 AM
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this is doubtless part of some bizarre conspiracy to get us all using electric cars. I can't believe they can get away with doing this to drivers who bought cars in good faith on the advice of the government.

The whole "clean air" campaign apparently conflicts with the road safety campaign which has seen speed bumps and 20mph zones erupt overnight. So now the clean air lot are saying that the speed bumps have to be removed because they cause pollution....
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07-05-2017, 03:58 AM
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We can't hit the heavy commercial vehicles....the cost to haulage would cripple the country.

I'll bet the leisure boaters won't be hit either.
They already get subsidised diesel fuel at £1 p/l and some of the larger planing boats use between 150-400 lt an hour.
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07-05-2017, 07:11 AM
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I could be something to do with the Nozzle Manufacturers, streamlining their production process, making just one colour and standard size filling Nozzle.
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Don't forget that an increasing number of buses are hybrid powered.

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07-05-2017, 11:51 AM
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While it's always fun to knock the Government, you'd have to say that some car manufacturers were totally unscrupulous in devising methods to enable their small diesel engines to cheat their way through emission tests, particularly when it comes to NOx levels. IIRC, the first time this came to light was a couple of years ago when one American test lab simply refused to accept the results that the VW company was claiming. On further investigation, they found the cheating software that enabled the cars to get through the test, but put out very different exhaust fumes when actually on the road.
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Originally Posted by RossT ->
While it's always fun to knock the Government, you'd have to say that some car manufacturers were totally unscrupulous in devising methods to enable their small diesel engines to cheat their way through emission tests, particularly when it comes to NOx levels. IIRC, the first time this came to light was a couple of years ago when one American test lab simply refused to accept the results that the VW company was claiming. On further investigation, they found the cheating software that enabled the cars to get through the test, but put out very different exhaust fumes when actually on the road.
That may well be.
However, those above encouraged people to buy diesels due to mpg etc. Now, those that purchased them are getting hammered. A bloody disgrace imo!

With ref to hgv's etc. Petrol engines lack the torque required for pulling and accelerating with heavy loads.
That aside, if they penalise hgv's, it will reflect on the consumer with increased cost of goods.
 
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