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15-06-2017, 08:03 AM
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Re: Fire engulfs Grenfell tower block in west London

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Oh dear, heads will roll and rightly so if that's true!
Do you really think so? Where have you been for the past umpteen years?

Already this is following the same familiar pattern of so many disasters, accidents and other failures by the authorities, like abuse in children's homes; sex abuse in Rotherham; deaths in hospitals; toddlers killed because they slipped through social services

Repeated warnings which were ignored; complicated or evasive management structure; abuse of complainants or whistleblowers
Management and the various authorities will close ranks and pass the buck

I expect that the eventual enquiry will inform us that 'lessons have been learned', or that 'systems have been put in place', but no-one will go to prison, and no-one will get the sack
Or if they do, give it a few months for the fuss to die down and they will turn up in another similar well paid job in another local authority or company somewhere
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15-06-2017, 08:22 AM
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Hi

Here you go Longy.

http://news.salvationarmy.org.uk/sal...ell-tower-fire

They were there within two hours, at 3 in the morning.

They are remarkable people.
Thanks swim.

I guessed they would be there helping as always. One of the better charities around.
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15-06-2017, 08:26 AM
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Re: Fire engulfs Grenfell tower block in west London

It's ridiculous that amongst all the elf 'n' safety rubbish we have to endure, something as important as flammable cladding gets through.
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15-06-2017, 08:31 AM
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Re: Fire engulfs Grenfell tower block in west London

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It's ridiculous that amongst all the elf 'n' safety rubbish we have to endure, something as important as flammable cladding gets through.
Polymer cladding and gas pipes? what a combination!
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15-06-2017, 08:35 AM
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Re: Fire engulfs Grenfell tower block in west London

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It's ridiculous that amongst all the elf 'n' safety rubbish we have to endure, something as important as flammable cladding gets through.
The problem is these products are tested to 750 degrees to get stamped but most domestic fires reach 1000 degrees.

The whole regulation book needs ripping up and rewritten.

There's just been an interview with London Fire Brigade Commissioner Danni Cotton....very revealing as to what her firefighters experienced, how they went about their job and the thinking behind the people that do this dangerous job.
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15-06-2017, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Lindyloo ->
BBC Breakfast's Naga Munchetty was giving a pretty fierce interview/interrogation of someone to do with fire safety this morning. Think he's a TM advisor??

Yet another nail in the coffin for her methinks!
Hi

I very much doubt that Theresa May even knew about the report.

The person in Government with overall responsibility for implementing it was Eric Pickles, he was Secretary of State and junior Ministers have to do what the boss says.

Pickles believes in less rules, less enforcement and more self regulation by industry.

He was fanatical about this.

He has a point, we have far too many rules and regulations, unfortunately he was unable to differentiate between those we need and those we don't.

He is no longer an MP.
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15-06-2017, 08:38 AM
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Re: Fire engulfs Grenfell tower block in west London

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Polymer cladding and gas pipes? what a combination!
More important to ban children from playing conkers and dustman from wearing Santa hats.
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15-06-2017, 08:44 AM
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Re: Fire engulfs Grenfell tower block in west London

Originally Posted by longdogs ->
more important to ban children from playing conkers and dustman from wearing santa hats.
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15-06-2017, 08:50 AM
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Re: Fire engulfs Grenfell tower block in west London

A fair few high rise flats have had cladding added to them over the last few years, presumably all adhering to the same regs as this one did. If I lived in one then I'd be somewhat concerned!!!!
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15-06-2017, 09:02 AM
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LBC Radio

After the 9am news they will be talking about the gas pipes etc.

Should be pretty informative.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/london/radio/player/
 
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