22-06-2017, 06:54 PM
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Why can't we pick our own veggies ?
Will someone tell me why we can't pick our own vegetables ?We have university students available in the holidays and unemployed young people .Traveling Australians looking for casual work would do this .
Farmers need to provide some sort of accommodation for workers but surely we needn't be that dependant on foreign labour in this industry ?
22-06-2017, 07:10 PM
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Re: Why can't we pick our own veggies ?
Originally Posted by Muddy
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Will someone tell me why we can't pick our own vegetables ?We have university students available in the holidays and unemployed young people .Traveling Australians look for casual work would do this
Farmers need to provide some sort of accommodation for workers but surely we needn't be that dependant on foreign labour in this industry ?
22-06-2017, 07:38 PM
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Re: Why can't we pick our own veggies ?
Originally Posted by TessA
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I can't see why we can't. I think the main reason is that foreign workers will work for less.
Minimum wage is minimum wage.
If the British will not do it unless we pay more, up goes the price of food.
How are we going to force people to move to agricultural areas?
How are we going to force the unemployed to work?
22-06-2017, 07:54 PM
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Re: Why can't we pick our own veggies ?
They said on the local news tonight that farmers reckon they are 20% down on foreign labour already.Fruit is at the perfect stage for picking and they haven't enough help.
They interviewed a couple of workers and they said they will go to other countries to work next season because the money is better.
Here is more about it:
http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2017-...rkers-from-eu/
22-06-2017, 08:38 PM
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Re: Why can't we pick our own veggies ?
So, who picked the vegetables before foreign people picked them?Has the country come to a standstill now the foreign labour is leaving?!!
I remember years ago, it was the thing for young people to go to Wisbech for the season, picking fruit and vegetables!
22-06-2017, 08:51 PM
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Re: Why can't we pick our own veggies ?
There was a fruit farmer being interviewed on the radio this morning.When he advertised locally for fruit pickers one person applied and they lasted just the one day.
We used to go raspberry picking after school and got paid 3d a punnet (and not the plastic containers they have these days with a dozen berries in them).
Then we picked in the holidays.
The unemployed should have to help pick produce.
22-06-2017, 09:04 PM
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Re: Why can't we pick our own veggies ?
Originally Posted by Meg
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There was a fruit farmer being interviewed on the radio this morning.When he advertised locally for fruit pickers one person applied and they lasted just the one day.
We used to go raspberry picking after school and got paid 3d a punnet (and not the plastic containers they have these days with a dozen berries in them).
Then we picked in the holidays.
The unemployed should have to help pick produce.
That's an idea Meg. I wonder if it would work?
22-06-2017, 09:06 PM
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Re: Why can't we pick our own veggies ?
It's a mind game being played here and there will be many many more of them over the coming couple of years so strap in and get used to them.It's not a bad thing though.
Essentially what is being highlighted here is that there is a bigger picture involved in our buying decisions.
For a long time Brits have happily bought "stuff" from shops concentrating solely on price and with absolutely no thought to the wider implications of what those purchases mean.
So people have happily walked into supermarkets and picked up pairs of jeans for literally £3 ! Many years ago people would happily pay £30-£50 for jeans !
But what is the price of buying foreign imported jeans for a pittance? Slave labour in sweat shops in other countries and likely much more implications.
BrExit is not simply about leaving the EU.
BrExit is about understanding anew what it means to be a sovereign country and what responsibility we each have to each other within that national community.
It ultimately means we MUST once again come to understand and respect and support local trades and producers. It means we MUST think beyond a price tag and understand that cheap doesn't always help the country and the wider community.
Once we get our minds around the implications we should start to choose our purchases with more responsibility and that will almost certainly mean paying more money to support home grown goods, be they food items or clothing or whatever.
I'd say we absolutely need to re-establish good strong agriculture production, fruit, vegetables and of course plenty of home grown animals (beef, lamb, chicken, turkey, venison etc).
A part of that is to mentally say f*** the supermarkets because they have been responsible for the decimation of our local trades, trades which Britain used to be proud of, A-Class Butchers, Green Grocers, Bakeries, Raw milk dairies and so on.
We are equally responsible for that situation because we just didn't care and took the easy, lazy and cheaper option of strolling into Tesco and Sainsbury.
Sainsbury's largest shareholder is Qatar, they effectively own it along with huge swathes of London and lots of other things.
The country needs to take back control of such things but that can only happen if we take responsibility for our buying choices and pay more for British produce. The longer term prospects for everyone are better if we act responsibly.
So on the issue of fruit and veg picking, yep, let's pay higher salaries for that so that our own people will undertake the tasks. It's employment for our own people, which in turn will help them survive these turbulent times better and increase morale. The cost of fruit and veg will rise and we should all accept that additional cost for the good of the country and our mutual prosperity.
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