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03-12-2017, 11:17 AM
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Re: Two for the price of one???

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

He has not as yet been prosecuted.

Viewing legal pornography is not a criminal offence.

It is a Civil Matter relating to codes of conduct, nothing more, nothing less.

It is not a matter for the CPS.

Removing evidence and retaining it is a Criminal Offence.

There are two ways of dealing with it.

One is a Criminal Prosecution.

The other, far more effective solution, is an Internal Disciplinary.

Any of my staff doing so would have been dismissed without any Pension, it would have been stripped.

We simply cannot have a system whereby Enforcement Officers, of any variety, remove evidence.

It works both ways UJ, the Rotherham Cover up is an example.

If you need to view Porn as part of your job, and many do, there are stand alone computers in the office, two Passwords, the Boss and the Officer and each and every visit is logged.

That is how we trace the rape gangs and kiddy fiddlers and people traffickers.

A very different scenario to an idiot viewing Porn in works time, that is simply an Internal Disciplinary.

I will repeat, I have one PACE Book, fully authorised, because I need it.

The others are signed out and in when used, when you leave or retire, there is a process to be followed.

In this instance it was not, and that is wrong.

You clearly have misunderstood the whole issue. The Police Dectective responsible for such disclosure is now RETIRED therefore there can be no internal disciplinary hearing!!! The only option open to the CPS is either to leave well alone or prosecute in open court, if they choose the latter, who knows what this former Policeman may say in the witness box in his defence???
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03-12-2017, 11:33 AM
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Re: Two for the price of one???

Originally Posted by Uncle Joe ->
You clearly have misunderstood the whole issue. The Police Dectective responsible for such disclosure is now RETIRED therefore there can be no internal disciplinary hearing!!! The only option open to the CPS is either to leave well alone or prosecute in open court, if they choose the latter, who knows what this former Policeman may say in the witness box in his defence???
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I have most certainly not misunderstood UJ.

Your Pension is payable subject to conditions.

Absolutely no need for a Prosecution, just take it away from him.

I most certainly would.
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03-12-2017, 12:01 PM
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Re: Two for the price of one???

Retired he maybe, but he was discredited and left under a cloud.

Mr Quick resigned his post with the Metropolitan Police in 2009 after he was photographed entering Downing Street carrying a secret briefing note on which details of the undercover operation could be seen.

He's behaved in a very shady way re the Green business.
He's well out of order.

I repeat what I believe, yes Green did, many men do, yes he lied, well in those famous words "he would wouldn't he?" ...but there are far more important things to worry about and it should be left to blow over...
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03-12-2017, 12:11 PM
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Re: Two for the price of one???

Originally Posted by ruthio ->
Retired he maybe, but he was discredited and left under a cloud.

Mr Quick resigned his post with the Metropolitan Police in 2009 after he was photographed entering Downing Street carrying a secret briefing note on which details of the undercover operation could be seen.

He's behaved in a very shady way.
He's well out of order.

I repeat what I believe, yes Green did, many men do, yes he lied, well in those famous words "he would wouldn't be?", but there are more important things to worry about and it should be left to blow over...
Hi

I agree with you totally.

Apologies for the delay in replying.

I was too busy watching Porn.

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03-12-2017, 12:25 PM
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Re: Two for the price of one???

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

I agree with you totally.

Apologies for the delay in replying.

I was too busy watching Porn.



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03-12-2017, 12:40 PM
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Re: Two for the price of one???

Originally Posted by ruthio ->


Hi

Lost your sense of humour Ruthio?

I have the two littlies here whilst Mum and Dad go Christmas shopping, busy sticking Post Its in Argos Catalogues for what they want as presents and drinking illegal Red Coke and having crisps and sweets before lunch.

That is what Grandads are for.
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03-12-2017, 01:32 PM
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Re: Two for the price of one???

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
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Lost your sense of humour Ruthio?

I have the two littlies here whilst Mum and Dad go Christmas shopping, busy sticking Post Its in Argos Catalogues for what they want as presents and drinking illegal Red Coke and having crisps and sweets before lunch.

That is what Grandads are for.
You must be joking
The day I lose my sense of humour will be the day I snuff it!!
 
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