23-08-2017, 09:53 AM
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Well I think it's a good idea it's no worse than booze IMO and police can spend more time on more damaging crimes. I think it's time we accepted we've lost the war on drugs and find ways to make taking them safer. We may see an increase in takers at first but I'm certain it will settle back to a lower level once you take the illegal tag off it.
23-08-2017, 10:11 AM
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The police would have to spend more time on drug related driving Julie. It is naïve to think that cannabis is harmless IMO.I also don't think for one minute that all the growers are going to come forward to be taxed and regulated. Folks are happily making a good living from growing with relative impunity. Who is going to go around trying to tax them - it would cost money and be a nightmare to implement. According to someone I know £70,000 a year can be made without a lot of effort. Skunk (and variations) can cause a lot of disruption to lives and - no I definitely would not want to see cannabis legalised. Prescription usage excepted. About the best thing we can do is educate folks about drugs and impose stricter penalties for those who use and supply.
23-08-2017, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Julie1962
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Well I think it's a good idea it's no worse than booze IMO and police can spend more time on more damaging crimes.
A less common but even more worrying aspect of cannabis use is the now well established link between Cannabis use and psychoses (particularly Paranoid Schizophrenia) as well as lower level anxiety based mental illnesses. Research is now showing clearly that there is a very strong link between heavy cannabis use at an early age, and the development of psychotic illnesses in early adulthood. In my own work I have come across several young people who have developed full blown Paranoid Schizophrenia after heavy cannabis usage in their early teenage years, as well as dozens who have developed serious anxiety disorders necessitating psychiatric treatment.
I accept that for many (most) adult users, there will be no ill-effects and I understand the motivation for calls for legalisation, but I would only accept them if such legalisation offered enough protection for our vulnerable young people.
23-08-2017, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MickB
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Having worked with young drug users for over 40 years, one of the biggest myths is that Cannabis is a "safe" drug. It may be physiologically less damaging than alcohol and other illegal drugs, but its effects are more subtle. One of the most noticeable effects is the fact that it saps young peoples' motivation and severely reduces the likelihood of them working hard at their education and achieving good results - which of course impacts greatly on their future prospects. I've seen huge numbers of young people throw away their future in this manner. A less common but even more worrying aspect of cannabis use is the now well established link between Cannabis use and psychoses (particularly Paranoid Schizophrenia) as well as lower level anxiety based mental illnesses. Research is now showing clearly that there is a very strong link between heavy cannabis use at an early age, and the development of psychotic illnesses in early adulthood. In my own work I have come across several young people who have developed full blown Paranoid Schizophrenia after heavy cannabis usage in their early teenage years, as well as dozens who have developed serious anxiety disorders necessitating psychiatric treatment.
I accept that for many (most) adult users, there will be no ill-effects and I understand the motivation for calls for legalisation, but I would only accept them if such legalisation offered enough protection for our vulnerable young people.
Dealing with someone suffering from psychosis is pretty darned difficult. So we should not wish it upon anyone, particularly our grandchildren.
The unfortunate thing is, Lib Dem leader is simply vote catching a the earliest opportunity. They had 5 yrs to implement this, but they didn't .
23-08-2017, 01:13 PM
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Well I am hoping if it wasn't illegal we might see people taking them more safely and not have these problems. From what I've seen and I admit it's limited by my own experience and guiding the boys through the mess, it's more to do with doing something illegal that attracts many youngsters, that naughtiness that comes with it.23-08-2017, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MickB
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Having worked with young drug users for over 40 years, one of the biggest myths is that Cannabis is a "safe" drug. It may be physiologically less damaging than alcohol and other illegal drugs, but its effects are more subtle. One of the most noticeable effects is the fact that it saps young peoples' motivation and severely reduces the likelihood of them working hard at their education and achieving good results - which of course impacts greatly on their future prospects. I've seen huge numbers of young people throw away their future in this manner. A less common but even more worrying aspect of cannabis use is the now well established link between Cannabis use and psychoses (particularly Paranoid Schizophrenia) as well as lower level anxiety based mental illnesses. Research is now showing clearly that there is a very strong link between heavy cannabis use at an early age, and the development of psychotic illnesses in early adulthood. In my own work I have come across several young people who have developed full blown Paranoid Schizophrenia after heavy cannabis usage in their early teenage years, as well as dozens who have developed serious anxiety disorders necessitating psychiatric treatment.
I accept that for many (most) adult users, there will be no ill-effects and I understand the motivation for calls for legalisation, but I would only accept them if such legalisation offered enough protection for our vulnerable young people.
I wouldn´t like to see Cannabis legalised, other than for medical purposes, too many people who would be only too keen to try it, which would in many cases lead on to harder drugs.
23-08-2017, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MickB
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Having worked with young drug users for over 40 years, one of the biggest myths is that Cannabis is a "safe" drug. It may be physiologically less damaging than alcohol and other illegal drugs, but its effects are more subtle. One of the most noticeable effects is the fact that it saps young peoples' motivation and severely reduces the likelihood of them working hard at their education and achieving good results - which of course impacts greatly on their future prospects. I've seen huge numbers of young people throw away their future in this manner. A less common but even more worrying aspect of cannabis use is the now well established link between Cannabis use and psychoses (particularly Paranoid Schizophrenia) as well as lower level anxiety based mental illnesses. Research is now showing clearly that there is a very strong link between heavy cannabis use at an early age, and the development of psychotic illnesses in early adulthood. In my own work I have come across several young people who have developed full blown Paranoid Schizophrenia after heavy cannabis usage in their early teenage years, as well as dozens who have developed serious anxiety disorders necessitating psychiatric treatment.
I accept that for many (most) adult users, there will be no ill-effects and I understand the motivation for calls for legalisation, but I would only accept them if such legalisation offered enough protection for our vulnerable young people.
Having lived in the Carribean for some years where the use of weed is common I have seen some of these adverse effects first hand .
23-08-2017, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Muddy
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Excellent post Mick !Having lived in the Carribean for some years where the use of weed is common I have seen some of these adverse effects first hand .
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