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Re: The Search For A New Earth

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Scary or what!
It is already happening: part man, part machine.

Spectacles, hearing aids, pacemakers, prosthetic limbs and - he's just been on the programme I am watching - Stephen Hawkings - motorised wheelchair and voice synthesizer.
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Re: The Search For A New Earth

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Scary or what!
Just hope I'm around to see it...
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The programme explains the research being done to overcome the many problems.
Yes, I'm watching it now and hear that someone is predicting that new propulsion methods could get us to Alpha Centauri in only 20 years. That would mean travelling faster than light! Theoretically impossible.

It's still pie in the sky (not literally) of course, but if such things can be achieved we could have people travelling there and back in a single lifetime.

Even with such rapid travelling times, though, we could not send messages as radio waves travel at the speed of light: still thousands of years in this case.
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Yes, I'm watching it now and hear that someone is predicting that new propulsion methods could get us to Alpha Centauri in only 20 years. That would mean travelling faster than light! Theoretically impossible.

It's still pie in the sky (not literally) of course, but if such things can be achieved we could have people travelling there and back in a single lifetime.

Even with such rapid travelling times, though, we could not send messages as radio waves travel at the speed of light: still thousands of years in this case.
Not quite.

A propulsion system designed to get to Proxima B in 20 years would have to travel at .211 velocity of light, not allowing for acceleration/deceleration. Interestingly, for the people travelling, the journey would take 19 years 6 months due to time dilation with general relativity.

The fun comes when you try to accelerate to velocities approaching closer to the speed of light. If you could obtain 80% light speed, the trip would only take just over three years for those on board.

A radio signal from Proxima would only take 4.22 years to reach us because Proxima is 4.22 light years away.
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Not quite.

A propulsion system designed to get to Proxima B in 20 years would have to travel at .211 velocity of light, not allowing for acceleration/deceleration. Interestingly, for the people travelling, the journey would take 19 years 6 months due to time dilation with general relativity.

The fun comes when you try to accelerate to velocities approaching closer to the speed of light. If you could obtain 80% light speed, the trip would only take just over three years for those on board.

A radio signal from Proxima would only take 4.22 years to reach us because Proxima is 4.22 light years away.
Thank you. I stand corrected.

Should this suggested 20 year journey every be achieved, then yes, it would be a practical solution. Nevertheless, we have a very long way to go before that can be done, if ever.
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Thank you. I stand corrected.

Should this suggested 20 year journey every be achieved, then yes, it would be a practical solution. Nevertheless, we have a very long way to go before that can be done, if ever.
I saw the programme as well. Personally I thought it a little far fetched to try and get there in the next 100 years. The problems are colossal and we don't have the technology to overcome them. Assuming we did, the financial cost of it would be beyond reckoning and the chances of an outcome of finally establishing a thriving colony would be remote with far too many unknowns and hazards.
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I suspect that it would take a 100 years to get all the committees in place just to discuss who is going to build the rocket, who is going to pay for it, who will crew it and which famous passengers with lots of money will get the chance to leave Earth .....

Just a thought...talking of passengers, and if the spaceship was about to launch, who would you nominate to go...?
I am nominating Jeremy and Diane, their offspring would be big on Socialism but short on financial skills.

Any other nominees?
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I suspect that it would take a 100 years to get all the committees in place just to discuss who is going to build the rocket, who is going to pay for it, who will crew it and which famous passengers with lots of money will get the chance to leave Earth .....

Just a thought...talking of passengers, and if the spaceship was about to launch, who would you nominate to go...?
I am nominating Jeremy and Diane, their offspring would be big on Socialism but short on financial skills.

Any other nominees?
Not to mention elf.n.safety
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Not to mention elf.n.safety
Bloody hell I had forgotten about those two, put them on board too
 
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