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28-04-2015, 10:50 AM
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Despite constant and regular pleas for mercy from the Australian govt, their families and lawyers there seems no doubt that the Indonesian govt will carry out the murder of these two men around midnight Indonesian time. They have even been denied spiritual representation at their murder.

There is also no doubt that the newly elected President of Indonesia is struggling to maintain popularity amongst his own peoples. Despite there being a compelling case of bribery suggested on the parts of the Indonesian judges months ago this is being ignored.

For your lack of compassion Mr President you will be remembered - you have no compassion in your heart IMO and are not worthy to be a President
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28-04-2015, 11:08 AM
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And how much compassion do Chan and Sukumaran have in their hearts?
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28-04-2015, 11:09 AM
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They went to a country where they knew this could be the punishment and tried to smuggle over 1lbs of drugs ? I am anti the death penalty but if you go to a country that has it you cannot bleat when you are sentenced if you have done the crime.
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28-04-2015, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by OldGreyFox ->
Not just directed at Bruce, it's aimed at all the contributors. How would you place the list in order of 'Badness'
Murderers:- Taking someones life must be the ultimate crime.
Drug Smugglers:- Still taking away life, albeit indirectly.
Paedophiles:- Interfering with the future lives of children. Death Penalty?
Rapists with violence:- Very Serious, long prison term, but not death penalty?
Rapists without violence:- Sometimes hard to prove. Long prison term if proved beyond doubt.
What do you think?
I think it has to be judged case by case and I am not in favour of death for anyone, I would however be in favour of whole life terms with no chance of getting out.
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28-04-2015, 11:51 AM
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How precious is life?
Who's life is worth more? The innocent or the guilty , the rich or the poor , the educated or the ignorent? What about Evil and educated or poor and innocent or rich and ignorent?? How do we judge?


Do we allow criminals to live but allow their victims to perish because they cant afford health care?

Do we spend money on high tech jails and feed killers but allow innocent people in third world countries to starve to death?

Do we protect peadophiles from the world or do we protect the world from them?

Is it more compassionate to lock a man in a tiny cell for the rest of life with no hope of release than to end his life painlessly and spare his victims and family the torture of his presence on this earth?

Compassion is a huge word ..It has many forms and differs from person to person. What one person finds compassionate another might find intolerable.
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28-04-2015, 12:03 PM
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Aren't they drugs traffickers? I don't call it murder, I call it justice, and a deterrent. There should be more of it
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28-04-2015, 12:09 PM
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Good post Cass, Nothing is black and white is it.....
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28-04-2015, 12:45 PM
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What a wonderful post Cass, with huge insight.
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28-04-2015, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by zuludog ->
Aren't they drugs traffickers? I don't call it murder, I call it justice, and a deterrent. There should be more of it

Well said it was an emotive title anyway.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-32491980
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28-04-2015, 12:55 PM
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They knew the risks.........
 
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