07-12-2017, 05:49 PM
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Re: The Irish Border Problem
Originally Posted by Colonelgrim
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Think about it for one moment, who are the people that would kick up all the fuss about having a hard boarder in northern Ireland(?), correct, the IRA, there still there you know!All I'm suggesting is lets have a hard boarder, but lets let Southern Ireland impose it, result, in a peaceful northern Ireland, and a workable hard boarder, and if the catholics in northern ireland didn't like it they could cause trouble in their own religious region, sorted.
I'm reading from your post that you dont seem to want a hard boarder then!!!! I wonder why not!
Perhaps southern Ireland should consider leaving the EU, unless of course you have become too reliant upon EU handouts sponsored by we party!
07-12-2017, 05:53 PM
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Re: The Irish Border Problem
Originally Posted by Muddy
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https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/1...like-a-fiddle/
Just reading that makes me realise how we, and the Irish People, are being stuffed.
The Greeks would have a word for it....something along the lines of "that's what they did to Greece".
07-12-2017, 06:17 PM
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Re: The Irish Border Problem
Originally Posted by Mountaintop
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I'll say nothing but that you are wrong. You don't think you are but you are wrong. By the way, Ireland does not receive handouts from the EU; we are net contributors now. You didn't seem to hear me say that my family does business with the UK, net contributors to your economy! You'll probably tell me go stuff if anyway. Charming. Don't know why I bother responding.
07-12-2017, 06:22 PM
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Re: The Irish Border Problem
Originally Posted by Mountaintop
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The anti-Irish tone of this whole tread is sad, depressing, and reflects a basic level of ignorance of the issues on hand. The summing up of complex problems in ill-ground soundbites is very worrisome. I live in Southern Ireland. My brothers imports engineering products from the UK and has done so for twenty years. I have family in the UK. And then I read a tread from Colonelgrim about terrorist activity targeting my government and some nonsense about a Hard Border and I shake my head and ask myself what's that all about? I mean, have any of these people even visited the Irish Republic. Ignorant and nonsensical.
Goods can be transported across without a Hard Border, it is not rocket science, seals and electronic tags and readers.
We offered a seamless Border, the Irish Prime Minister started playing silly idiots with his demands, effectively using the EU to hold us to ransom.
He will end up with a hard border if he continues.
If he does not back down, then so be it.
The UK ends the Common Travel Area, which is not part of the EU Remit and Ireland suffers big time.
It will be entirely his choice.
07-12-2017, 06:38 PM
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Re: The Irish Border Problem
Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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Since there hasn't been a referendum on the issue since 1921, isn't it about time we asked the Northern Irish people whether they do want to re-unify???https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iickNtK5Ivw
07-12-2017, 06:44 PM
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Re: The Irish Border Problem
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiGoods can be transported across without a Hard Border, it is not rocket science, seals and electronic tags and readers.
We offered a seamless Border, the Irish Prime Minister started playing silly idiots with his demands, effectively using the EU to hold us to ransom.
He will end up with a hard border if he continues.
If he does not back down, then so be it.
The UK ends the Common Travel Area, which is not part of the EU Remit and Ireland suffers big time.
It will be entirely his choice.
07-12-2017, 06:55 PM
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Re: The Irish Border Problem
Originally Posted by Mountaintop
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Your tone is threatening and illogical, in line the approach of most Brexiteers that I have heard to date. I did say before that the Republic of Ireland is the 5th biggest export market for British goods. Does that count for nothing? A little respect and moderation please. Maybe you won't miss what you have until it's gone.
It was not the UK who started this, it was your Prime Minister.
It is your own Government who is being threatening and illogical.
They are quite simply saying, give us what we want or we will veto any trade talks.
What I am saying in response is this.
Use your veto and this is what you will get.
It is your choice.
07-12-2017, 08:22 PM
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Re: The Irish Border Problem
Originally Posted by Mountaintop
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The anti-Irish tone of this whole tread is sad, depressing, and reflects a basic level of ignorance of the issues on hand.
I think, if you look more deeply, that it is your politicians who you should mistrust. The same applies to our politicians, as has been said by others here many times.
If you read the link that Muddy has just supplied, you might realise that the EU and your own politicians have sold you down the river and are still taking advantage of you, as they do with us.
If I were Irish, I'd be pushing for an Irish exit from the EU.
Ireland and the UK have traded successfully and been friends since Irish independence in 1922. It is only since Brexit has been on the cards that the EU bureaucrats are trying to stir up distrust between us, and I think it is obvious why they are doing that.
Don't fall for their lies. Join us and leave the sinking EU.
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