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27-03-2018, 11:54 AM
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Re: A phantasist and delusional

Originally Posted by Rainmaker ->
Just about every word you utter reveals your mind is closed to reasonable debate. You can't accept that people might see things differently to you and your discredited ideology.
So when you run out of ideas you resort to sidetracking or worse, abuse and bullying.

Even you must be able to see that there is more money going into the NHS than ever before, the benefits of which you obviously enjoy, but money can only do so much.

Its people who behave like you, who prevent a proper debate on the NHS and any chance of finding a viable solution to the problems it undoubtedly faces. Perhaps you need to ditch the ideology and look at the real facts

So they've created 3000 more mid-wives, but what about the thousands of nurses the NHS has lost during the past year because the foreign nurses previously recruited, due to their immigration uncertainty have either returned home or moved to another EU country??? What about the replacing the numbers of junior doctors that left and went abroad because they would not accept Jeremy Hunt's 'new' abysmal contracts??? What about all the hospital beds that have closed???? or the wards that have closed??? - where is the scumbag 'nasty party's funding for all this???
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27-03-2018, 11:58 AM
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Re: A phantasist and delusional

Originally Posted by Uncle Joe ->
So they've created 3000 more mid-wives, but what about the thousands of nurses the NHS has lost during the past year because the foreign nurses previously recruited, due to their immigration uncertainty have either returned home or moved to another EU country??? What about the replacing the numbers of junior doctors that left and went abroad because they would not accept Jeremy Hunt's 'new' abysmal contracts??? What about all the hospital beds that have closed???? or the wards that have closed??? - where is the scumbag 'nasty party's funding for all this???
Maybe there would be more money for the NHS if they didn't have to spend more on defence as Russia appears to be determined to reactivate the cold war.
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27-03-2018, 12:14 PM
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Re: A phantasist and delusional

Originally Posted by tarantula ->
Maybe there would be more money for the NHS if they didn't have to spend more on defence as Russia appears to be determined to reactivate the cold war.

There could be even more money if we scrapped the ridiculous falacy that we are a world power and scrapped Trident.
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27-03-2018, 01:16 PM
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Re: A phantasist and delusional

Originally Posted by Uncle Joe ->
So they've created 3000 more mid-wives, but what about the thousands of nurses the NHS has lost during the past year because the foreign nurses previously recruited, due to their immigration uncertainty have either returned home or moved to another EU country??? What about the replacing the numbers of junior doctors that left and went abroad because they would not accept Jeremy Hunt's 'new' abysmal contracts??? What about all the hospital beds that have closed???? or the wards that have closed??? - where is the scumbag 'nasty party's funding for all this???
It is easy to rant about things that aren't satisfactory in the NHS and there is plenty but it is none of it is down to Conservatives or their alleged desire to close down. The funding you mention is currently at a record high and it is not the Conservatives funding, its the Taxpayers. There is only so much you can ask off the taxpayer an a balance has to be struck between funding all the other services we have come to expect.

More money into the NHS means something else will lose out. which would you prefer, education perhaps. Benefits?

Not that I expect to be able to reason this out for yourself in your blind raging attempts to blame the Conservatives for everything that's wrong with your world.
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27-03-2018, 01:21 PM
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Re: A phantasist and delusional

Originally Posted by Rainmaker ->
It is easy to rant about things that aren't satisfactory in the NHS and there is plenty but it is none of it is down to Conservatives or their alleged desire to close down. The funding you mention is currently at a record high and it is not the Conservatives funding, its the Taxpayers. There is only so much you can ask off the taxpayer an a balance has to be struck between funding all the other services we have come to expect.

More money into the NHS means something else will lose out. which would you prefer, education perhaps. Benefits?

Not that I expect to be able to reason this out for yourself in your blind raging attempts to blame the Conservatives for everything that's wrong with your world.

See post #53 - therein lies the answer!!!
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27-03-2018, 01:29 PM
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Re: A phantasist and delusional

Originally Posted by tarantula ->
Maybe there would be more money for the NHS if they didn't have to spend more on defence as Russia appears to be determined to reactivate the cold war.
Boris johnsons doing that all on his own. Man won't have to fight he's too old but willing to threaten and send our young boys and girls to fight for him.
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27-03-2018, 03:26 PM
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Re: A phantasist and delusional

Originally Posted by Rainmaker ->
It is easy to rant about things that aren't satisfactory in the NHS and there is plenty but it is none of it is down to Conservatives or their alleged desire to close down. The funding you mention is currently at a record high and it is not the Conservatives funding, its the Taxpayers. There is only so much you can ask off the taxpayer an a balance has to be struck between funding all the other services we have come to expect.

More money into the NHS means something else will lose out. which would you prefer, education perhaps. Benefits?

Not that I expect to be able to reason this out for yourself in your blind raging attempts to blame the Conservatives for everything that's wrong with your world.
Perhaps you'd care to explain then, when asked many thousands said they would like to see 1p on Income Tax if it was meant to fund the NHS.

Perhaps you'd also care to comment on this report which indicates, as I have repeatedly stated, the NHS is being starved of funds, not because there isn't the money there, but for political and idealogical reasons - the scumbag 'nasty party' want to see the NHS destroyed and sold off to private enterprise because they despise 'nationalised' industries.






https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-a8274726.html
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27-03-2018, 03:42 PM
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Re: A phantasist and delusional

Originally Posted by Uncle Joe ->
There could be even more money if we scrapped the ridiculous falacy that we are a world power and scrapped Trident.
We need it to keep Russians at bay!
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27-03-2018, 03:43 PM
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Hi

I see no such conclusion from that report.
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27-03-2018, 04:43 PM
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Re: A phantasist and delusional

Originally Posted by Uncle Joe ->
Perhaps you'd care to explain then, when asked many thousands said they would like to see 1p on Income Tax if it was meant to fund the NHS.

Perhaps you'd also care to comment on this report which indicates, as I have repeatedly stated, the NHS is being starved of funds, not because there isn't the money there, but for political and idealogical reasons - the scumbag 'nasty party' want to see the NHS destroyed and sold off to private enterprise because they despise 'nationalised' industries.






https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-a8274726.html
I already wasted enough time on you and your rigid narrow view. When you are reduced to quoting a labour politicians views in a left wing rag as an unbiased source of information then your argument is so weak it is virtually non-existent. Whatever I or anyone else says you will never be convinced. Its obvious to everyone but you change so have it your way and continue to make yourself look foolish.
 
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