14-06-2017, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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What I find horrifying is that tenants were saying that there were no fire alarm systems working to warn them of the fire .Talking to he who must obey, who is a Fire Safety/Fire Training Officer, the council have a duty of care to those living in all social housing with multiple occupation, and should ensure that a weekly fire test is carried out and the findings recorded in the fire log book. God help them if they did not do this.
14-06-2017, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tpin
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You have a problem....people have died, the emergency services risked life and limb and you pick them up on this?Who gives a flying f*** how they speak when they're saving lives?
some people need to be lined up against the wall and humiliated.
14-06-2017, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Tpin
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You have a problem....people have died, the emergency services risked life and limb and you pick them up on this?Who gives a flying f*** how they speak when they're saving lives?
PLEASE read my previous post and take in what I said.
I was certainly NOT referring to this appalling tragedy, it was a general observation and I happen to think that it does a disservice to our Firefighters, Police, Paramedics etc.
As I stated ... it was 'an aside'
I dislike this trend of dumbing-down our Country
Feel free to carry on trying to be offended
14-06-2017, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rhosyn
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Wondering if it started with a tumble drier fire,there's been a lot of these in the news.My thoughts go out to all those poor people affected.It's a tragedy.
They eventually came to collect it and replaced it with a brand new, state of the art, latest Hotpoint tumble dryer for a contribution of £99. so am happily using this now.
But going back to the question of it perhaps being a tumble dryer,,,,, Mine was situated right by the back door. No way in heaven would I have used it in a tower block flat, with all the danger involved.
Whatever the reason, it is an absolute tragedy.
14-06-2017, 06:13 PM
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Where I lived before, my next but one neighbours, an older couple, were in the house and smelt burning only to find their washing machine on fire. The amount of smoke damage it caused was surprising but worse than that was the shock affected them so badly mentally and physically.Maybe this is a timely reminder to us all to check the smoke alarms in our homes and maybe any elderly neighbours we know.
14-06-2017, 06:15 PM
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Yes Muddy, it is sad, some people must feel so lonely and isolated. In a perfect world people would be living in terraced houses where neighbours could chat to each other over the fence. Sadly, people have to live somewhere and the majority of those that do live in tower blocks cherish their little homes and ensure that they are decorated and furnished to the highest standard. It's so tragic that they have lost their homes, their possessions and in the case of some, their lives.Possessions can always be replaced. Your loved ones, never
One tenant being interviewed, said that he could not help his elderly neighbour on the 23rd floor as he was disabled.
I'm not ashamed to say that brought tears to my eyes thinking about him.
I feel sure we will hear much more similar horror stories this week.
14-06-2017, 06:28 PM
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HiI am quite disgusted by the attitude of some of the press.
They are intruding far too much on peoples grief.
There was a scuffle when one family where given bad news and the press became far too intrusive, right in their faces.
The police had to intervene and the press have now been moved away behind a line of police.
14-06-2017, 06:30 PM
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Listening to the news, it says that the Government has ordered fire safety checks on all similar tower blocks.All I can say is that every single council had better have their paperwork and fire log books signed correctly by an independent Fire Safety Engineer under the Regulatory Reform Fire Safety Order 2005, which puts the onus on the owner/occupier of buildings (in the case of council tower blocks, the local council are the owners).
Quoting he who must obey's words.
Or heads should roll !!
14-06-2017, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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Possessions can always be replaced. Your loved ones, neverOne tenant being interviewed, said that he could not help his elderly neighbour on the 23rd floor as he was disabled.
I'm not ashamed to say that brought tears to my eyes thinking about him.
I feel sure we will hear much more similar horror stories this week.
Will they ever come to terms with the feelings of helplessness, guilt?I gather that there were Psychotherapists to hand at one or other of the centres. That kind of sounds encouraging.
Trying not to think about the horrors too much because that doesn't do any good, however, regarding the loss of material 'stuff' ... yes household items can easily be replaced but OMG what about all the personal things?
The heirlooms, the family photographs, the jewellery, anything of sentimental value
and how many of the family pets made it to safety ?I saw on FB that pet food, carriers etc are also needed
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