14-10-2016, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Baxter8
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SF - thanks for that breakdown. I think it demonstrates quite clearly the monumental task ahead! I certainly wouldn't want to be in charge of it.
14-10-2016, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by graculus
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Good job we have brilliant minds like Boris in charge then, along with a government that really has the interests of democracy at heart. What could possibly go wrong?
14-10-2016, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Purwell
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It already has the turkeys voted for Christmas, short sighted idiots.
21-10-2016, 10:49 AM
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At last nights meeting of the EU, Mrs May said that if the UK was excluded from meetings before we even confirm our departure, that we would not just rubber stamp any decisions made without us.As things stand we are still full members of the EU. If we are excluded from these meetings it is the EU who ahve boken their own rules. After the first of these meetings that need ratifying, if they go ahead without our input, we should be in a position not to pay the full amount of our membership fees into the EU.
21-10-2016, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Supporter
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At last nights meeting of the EU, Mrs May said that if the UK was excluded from meetings before we even confirm our departure, that we would not just rubber stamp any decisions made without us.As things stand we are still full members of the EU. If we are excluded from these meetings it is the EU who ahve boken their own rules. After the first of these meetings that need ratifying, if they go ahead without our input, we should be in a position not to pay the full amount of our membership fees into the EU.
21-10-2016, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Supporter
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I see that Tusk has said that if the UK insist on complete border control, the only deal available will be Hard Brexit or No Brexit.
I think he's just confirmed his mental inadequacy if he believes he can prevent our leaving.
Originally Posted by Old Supporter
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At last nights meeting of the EU, Mrs May said that if the UK was excluded from meetings before we even confirm our departure, that we would not just rubber stamp any decisions made without us.As things stand we are still full members of the EU. If we are excluded from these meetings it is the EU who ahve boken their own rules. After the first of these meetings that need ratifying, if they go ahead without our input, we should be in a position not to pay the full amount of our membership fees into the EU.
Whilst the EU leaders are issuing their ridiculous threats, why can't we begin discussing our own trade agreements with all of those countries who are queuing up to deal with us?
Oh, the EU would complain that we aren't allowed to do that whilst we're still members, eh? Funny how they can break the rules with impunity yet bleat about it if we do the same.
Who gives a toss?
21-10-2016, 06:34 PM
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HiI think that he has been taken out of context, it is just the same negotiating stance.
No freedom of movement, no access to the single market.
It was always going to be thus, neither side is moving an inch at the moment.
We can negotiate with other Countries, but only under WTO rules, these rules apply to all trading nations.
21-10-2016, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiI think that he has been taken out of context, it is just the same negotiating stance.
No freedom of movement, no access to the single market.
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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It was always going to be thus, neither side is moving an inch at the moment.We can negotiate with other Countries, but only under WTO rules, these rules apply to all trading nations.
And if the EU don't want to negotiate with us under the same rules, sod 'em.
21-10-2016, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JBR
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That's fine by me. If they want to lose customers in the UK for their products, that's their hard cheese. Yes, of course that would work both ways, but we buy more from them than they buy from us.So negotiate with the rest of the world under WTO rules. What's the problem? Whatever is agreed will be to our and their mutual benefit, surely.
And if the EU don't want to negotiate with us under the same rules, sod 'em.
It is explained here .
https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-leaving-eu-trade/
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