08-11-2016, 08:04 AM
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Re: So,,,,Germany held back secret EU Military plans during referendum
Originally Posted by Devo
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I have never understood the total antipathy towards a joint EU defence force. Given the cost of maintaining an independent defence for every country, pooling resources and forming a joint defence makes a lot of sense. Okay, so its formation may be fraught with nationalist screeching but once set up it would have to be quids in for everyone.I fear the problem in this country stems from to many still fighting WW2 in their imagination.
08-11-2016, 12:49 PM
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Re: So,,,,Germany held back secret EU Military plans during referendum
As per other posts, none of this is news. If people cared to read the various Treaties which have been illegally signed away by the monarchy they would have already known that all our military was destined to be taken over by an EU Military Army.Reading the Treaties was the reason I voted Brexit. Nothing to do with immigration. You read the content of those treaties and you can see quickly where Britain was headed. We would have had no parliament, no Westminster, no justice system of our own, no significant representation in the huge collective of EU MEPs, no ability to get any resolution through the EU Parliament etc etc.
In short, everything that was Britain, would have been removed, destroyed . . . permanently.
All the things you thought were sacrosanct, like "innocent until proven guilty", the right to Habeus Corpus and so on. All were heading out the window as we drew every closer to what was clearly a totalitarian United Federal States Of Europe.
Remember the days when the UK had the greatest Navy in the world? A justice system that couldn't be undermined by EU justice laws where crims were properly punished and not just let off?
If you haven't already, read the Lisbon Treaty and educate yourself.
Here's a useful summary website that explains the "7 Deadly Clauses" in that treaty, most of which UK voters were blissfully unaware of. Note how your politicians and the monarchy, over the years, have taken our country into this dictatorship without once giving the people a referendum, a vote, a choice. They have all betrayed the British people and should be held to account.
7 Deadly Clauses
http://www.eutruth.org.uk/lisbontreaty7.html
50 Reasons To Leave
http://www.eutruth.org.uk/50reasonseu.html
How To Exit From The EU
https://eutruth.org.uk/
08-11-2016, 11:00 PM
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Re: So,,,,Germany held back secret EU Military plans during referendum
Originally Posted by Judd
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Hmmm.... a European army. Didn't the Germans try something like that seventy-five years ago? The S.S. I think it was called. 
09-11-2016, 07:09 PM
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Re: So,,,,Germany held back secret EU Military plans during referendum
Originally Posted by Judd
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Hmmm.... a European army. Didn't the Germans try something like that seventy-five years ago? The S.S. I think it was called.
10-11-2016, 09:38 AM
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Re: So,,,,Germany held back secret EU Military plans during referendum
Originally Posted by Judd
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Hmmm.... a European army. Didn't the Germans try something like that seventy-five years ago? The S.S. I think it was called.
No, the German army was the Wermacht, the SS was Himmler's 'elite' force which had, to some extent a 'policing' role too.
10-11-2016, 10:31 AM
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Re: So,,,,Germany held back secret EU Military plans during referendum
Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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No, the German army was the Wermacht, the SS was Himmler's 'elite' force which had, to some extent a 'policing' role too.
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