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Originally Posted by realist ->
this is the very point i have raised in other threads. The globalist and eu agenda aims to eradicate the notion of nationalism because they can never achieve an all-controlling one-world government while everyone is still so emotionally and historically tied to their native countries.

There is nothing at all wrong in being proud of one's heritage and nation. There is nothing at all wrong in being british and being proud to be british. Same as there is nothing at all wrong with people from japan being proud of being japanese and loving the culture and heritage of japan.

The global agenda aims to destroy people's inherent ties to their country by first labelling this pride as "nationalism" to give it focus, and then by making nationalism an outlawed and very un-pc term.

It is incredibly divisive.

Already they have brainwashed many young people via the education system. They come out not caring about britain at all, not having any pride or interest in britain as a country but rather being steered towards being europeans of no particular fixed abode. They don't realise of course that giving up one's sovereignty will mean giving up freedoms and levels of influence and the ability to manage affairs in your own country. All they care about is their own careers, how they will make money and progress. They don't have the benefit of history and they care very little for the elderly, some of whom fought in wars to preserve the freedoms they enjoy. The brainwashing has been fairly successful.

In addition to focussing on the term nationalism and nationalists and making that term "bad", they will also introduce new laws to make it an offence to be such.

Just as there are racism laws, there will be nationalism laws.

The push is clearly towards the new kid on the block called "multiculturism". We must embrace all cultures, be part of a potpourri of different races and thereby lose our heritage and origins.

This has to be achieved by the eu and globalist elites if there are ever to have a chance of creating their one-world government.

How can they change mindsets from nationalism to multiculturism?

Very simple.

They purposefully initiate mass immigration into the eu and esp britain from multiple directions, from the middle east, from africa and from other eu states.

Once you flood a country with enough foreigners, those foreigners gain special status. Their needs can be pandered to under the auspices of fairness and multiculturism. Hence the influx of muslims will result in lots of mosques appearing and the green light for daily wailing to call the people to prayer. Anyone objecting to the gradual erosion of british culture and traditions will be labelled a nationalist and racist and will be "dealt with".

In this way, the elites destroy what is currently britain and turn it into a nothing eu state, a piece of land housing a huge mix of different cultures and races which is neither one nor the other.

At this point they win. At this point people and esp the youth, begin to think of themselves as simply europeans (many already do) and once that is achieved, the eu becomes the federal states of europe and controls everything.

The vote for brexit could, if it goes through, save all this at the final hour. If the british people can collectively wake the **** up and realise what is happening and how they and their country is being purposefully destroyed, they have a chance to turn it around and make britain a great country again.

It won't be easy because we live in a world where people will do almost anything for money and that includes selling their cultural heritage and identity down the river. The "city boys" all voted remain because they are entrenched in the corrupt financial systems that provide them with tons of money to fund their sports cars and fancy pads and yachts.
They don't care about britain, they care about money.

The rest of us who have to suffer the outfall of those corrupt financial systems, destroyed pensions, high taxes, high costs, have to collectively come together, stop fighting amongst ourselves and realise who the real enemy is here.

Labour, lib dem or conservative doesn't matter one iota. People like uj need to wake up and realise this urgently. We are losing our country because corrupt people and criminals are running the show. We should demand a total reform of the voting system, demand that the british constitution is properly written down and enforced and repeal all the eu bills and acts that have been pushed through without public consent.

There is still time.
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17-11-2016, 10:16 AM
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Holy Norah! This is ridiculous!

Wading through reams if, albeit excellent, text only to find an applause smiley or a short appreciative reply at the end if it.

If ever there was a good example of the dire need on here for a LIKE button, this is it!
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17-11-2016, 10:23 AM
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Good post Realist.
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17-11-2016, 10:39 AM
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We don't need a like button Barry has managed to agree without quoting reams of text. Just needs a sensible head
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17-11-2016, 10:55 AM
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**Can we not turn this thread into yet another discussion about 'Like' buttons .
Members can always say they agree with a member's post and quote the post number.
Thank you
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Sorry Meg
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17-11-2016, 11:24 AM
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Re Realist's post...

Well where is the conspiracy section of the site when you need one?

I will just say that the only times we as a planet have had wars, famines and poverty is when the countries repel others and put up borders.ie nationalism...or control via the emotive patriotism.
Both world wars were because of nationalism.
China had a terrible famine because the country closed itself off.
African states live in poverty because they still work as individual units.

No one has to choose between pride in their country and opening borders. That is nonsense. You can still be very proud of your country AND open access to it.

BTW all this rhetoric reminds me of white nationalist rallies.
I can't help but wonder WHO it is who wants power...and the terrible forces that quickly lead to racism, sexism, religious exclusion and other forms of discrimination.
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17-11-2016, 11:27 AM
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We don't want to close ourselves off there is nothing wrong though with loving your country, don't you love where you live ? I wouldn't live somewhere I didn't love life's too short.
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17-11-2016, 11:34 AM
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Realist wants to close the UK off.

I don't understand what anyone means by "loving your country". Millions of people move all over the world. They FEEL best in their childhood country because they are easily used to it. But that also blinds them to seeing what is possible elsewhere. If you live in one town all your life you know every alley but have never seen anything else.

There are wonderful countries out there. I feel admiration and respect for many things other countries do. and what they do changes over time anyway so what I admired 30 years ago may not now exist.

That is why IMO 'loving your country' means opening it up, not closing it off to other countries. Not making access difficult . Not putting up barriers. But working WITH other countries that prevents the awful results that border create.
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17-11-2016, 11:43 AM
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Loving my country doesn't blind me to others, we have immigrants in our family, they love UK too. People in other countries are allowed to be proud and love their countries, why is UK different.

We can trade, welcome visitors, visit other countries, but still love our home country best.

I don't think anyone feels better than anyone else it's pure luck where you are born, but we have a lovely country here, would be mad to think it's not.
 
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