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25-02-2018, 11:31 AM
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Re: African migrants protest against Israel's plans to deport them.

No one is going to answer this .

WHY WOULD AFRICANS WHO ARE MOSTLY MUSLIMS PASS THROUGH SEVERAL COUNTRIES WHICH ARE MOSTLY MUSLIM IN ORDER TO GET TO ISRAEL ?
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25-02-2018, 11:36 AM
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Re: African migrants protest against Israel's plans to deport them.

Nearest country these days can be anywhere a plane can fly to. But perhaps they read your empassioned defence of the fairest country on earth where people live side by side in complete harmony and equality. It's such a nirvana we all want to go there
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25-02-2018, 11:40 AM
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Re: African migrants protest against Israel's plans to deport them.

No Julie the nearest country is NOT where a plane can fly too.
That is a completely erroneous comment.

These are supposedly poor asylum seekers where would they get the plane fare ?
Moreover they would not be allowed into Israel if they arrived by plane .
Most come in via Egypt whose border with Israel is quite porous .

Yes no doubt they have heard that Israel is a humane and compassionate democratic country why else would they go there ?

I have never said it was the fairest country on earth nor have I described Israel as Nirvana these are your words .

However if it's so awful why do all these illegal immigrants want to stay there ?
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25-02-2018, 11:49 AM
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Re: African migrants protest against Israel's plans to deport them.

Same reason they come here I guess but you say my comment is erroneous, why ? If you get on a plane it can take you millions of miles. Many refugees have money, it's safety they are looking for, in many ways only those with money can get out.
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25-02-2018, 11:52 AM
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Re: African migrants protest against Israel's plans to deport them.

Originally Posted by Puddle Duck ->
Saw this. 20,000 being sent to Rwanda (not returned to their homelands) . Refusal means they'll go to prison !

Can we believe what the Independent reports ? ... er , probably not in this instance.
Or any instance.
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25-02-2018, 12:04 PM
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Re: African migrants protest against Israel's plans to deport them.

Why don't all these migrants band together and sort their own countries out instead of running away and leaving their fellow countrymen and women to face their fate?

Too many migrants flooding into a country unchecked just puts a terrible strain on the hosts countries infrastructure, like is happening in Britain for example. It's got nothing to do with race or religion, it's about the volume of migrants whoever they might be. You wouldn't allow 1000 passengers onto a ship that could only safely carry 500 would you? Is that xenophobic?

Bloody newspapers that only report half the story and whip up social unrest want putting out of business....
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25-02-2018, 12:07 PM
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Re: African migrants protest against Israel's plans to deport them.

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Same reason they come here I guess but you say my comment is erroneous, why ? If you get on a plane it can take you millions of miles. Many refugees have money, it's safety they are looking for, in many ways only those with money can get out.

Before you get on a plane you have to have a visa and a return ticket so illegal immigrants from Eritrea and Sudan will not enter Israel by plane .
Those who get to Israel pay people traffickers to smuggle them across the Israeli -Egyptian border .
Noticeably as here most of the illegal immigrants are young males .
Hundreds of thousands of young males from a different more violent culture is not something any country wants.
Much less a tiny country like Israel


BTW Israel is offering its illegal immigrants airfare and a large monetary incentive to leave voluntarily.
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Re: African migrants protest against Israel's plans to deport them.

Originally Posted by OldGreyFox ->
Why don't all these migrants band together and sort their own countries out instead of running away and leaving their fellow countrymen and women to face their fate?

Too many migrants flooding into a country unchecked just puts a terrible strain on the hosts countries infrastructure, like is happening in Britain for example. It's got nothing to do with race or religion, it's about the volume of migrants whoever they might be. You wouldn't allow 1000 passengers onto a ship that could only safely carry 500 would you? Is that xenophobic?

Bloody newspapers that only report half the story and whip up social unrest want putting out of business....
My extended family ran from their country back in the 70s, the men threatening them had guns, machetes and were all fit young men. My family were one over 90, two over 70s, three under 5s, four women in their 20s. Two sticks and a frying pan for defence. But they had enough money to buy a ticket to uk.

Thankfully apart from one worrying stop at a road block they made it to airport and bribed a private plane owner to take them.

Call them what you want I call them survivors brave survivors.

They all made it although auntie died about two weeks after arriving her internal injuries from being raped just over took her.

So you tell me why don't people stay and fight ? Why do they run ?
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25-02-2018, 12:29 PM
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Re: African migrants protest against Israel's plans to deport them.

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So you would deny them their human and legal rights as asylum seekers, contrary to Israel's and our international obligations. Didn't the Nazis deport thousands of Jews??? - your attitude would appear very similar!!!
Didn’t the deport them to death camps that they ran ? UJ trying to whitewash history once again
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Re: African migrants protest against Israel's plans to deport them.

Are a lot of these the Ethiopian Jews that Israel transported to Israel in a secret mission ? 'Operation Solomon' and now those same ones that Israeli's do not want to have as neighbours and suffering persecution.
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If we consider how Afghans, Syrian, and many others walked and bused their way across Europe, a few hikes and bus rides from Ethiopia and Sudan to Egypt and onto Israel is not such a hardship for people with such a will.
Many may have already been displaced and facing persecution but there are also kidnappers and traffickers operating in those countries. Maybe they didn't fancy crossing the Medi in a dinghy. All sorts of reason for any making their way to Israel as opposed to Europe.

The Zionist Dream
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-32813056

True to its Zionist dream of being a haven for Jews, the Jewish state embarked on risky and expensive rescue operations in the 1980s and 1990s.

These brought tens of thousands of Jews from remote parts of Ethiopia, who had suffered from religious persecution, famine and civil wars.

Yet, when they arrived in Israel, these distinctive people faced appalling discrimination, racism and a lack of empathy for their hardships in Ethiopia and during their journey to Israel.

Moreover, this was exacerbated by a mixture of bureaucratic insensitivity and incompetence. .....and more..

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Can we believe the BBC ? Probably not....
 
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