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Not before the sky falls down, though, eh?
Or the government?
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Perhaps post-Brexit Britain will re-open the mines, sending some children down with a canary... no need for expensive student loans when you've a lifetime career in t'pits.
Strange how many premature deaths are supposedly down to diesel emissions but after the clean air act very few got a mention because of coal fired power station emissions, proper investment in even cleaner emissions from the stations would mean we didn't need these crappy solar panels and wind mills.
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Can't,

Too pi$$ed and about to watch James Bond..........
He'll survive again.
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07-10-2017, 01:13 AM
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Anyway, why did we stop mining coal?
Probably because countries like Australia could mine coal, transport it 100s of kilometres to the coast, ship it 12000km to northern Europe and then sell it to you at half the price it cost you just to dig it up.
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07-10-2017, 03:29 AM
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Hi

The boring science bit,

Fracking can be an enormous problem due to the chemicals in the water used in the operation. and you do not want to be fracking in some areas due to the geology and the presence of aquifers used for drinking water.

Done properly, fracking is not an issue pollution wise.

If we keep on importing gas and oil we will continue to be at the mercy of others, who can control price and availability, the so called energy security.

There have been vast improvements in controlling emissions from coal fired power stations, the technology is British.

It has been installed at a huge Polish coal fired station, ironically, with an EU grant.

Unfortunately we do not have huge strip mines here, so we would have to import the coal.

Solar and wind are very cheap once the capital costs are paid, Germany even give free electricity to it's factories when wind produces an excess.

This gives them a competitive advantage.

Diesel emissions are very different to coal emissions and are a serious problem in built up areas.
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07-10-2017, 03:52 AM
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Hi

If we keep on importing gas and oil we will continue to be at the mercy of others, who can control price and availability, the so called energy security.
The incompetent Liberal government has suddenly woken up to the fact that we, as the world's second biggest exporter of gas, have a gas shortage. We can buy our own gas cheaper in Singapore than we can buy it here.

They also have woken up to the fact, after power blackouts in SA, that we are going to be short of power because they removed the carbon tax but did nothing else so no one was willing to invest in renewable generation while the coal fired power stations all over the country are reaching the end of their life and are shutting down.

This combined with the gas shortage has sent the government into panic mode. Ideologically unable to impose export restrictions on gas they are bullying the gas companies into ensuring there is supply for 2018 and bullying the states to allow fracking. None of this has gone down well with anybody.

SA is now buying the world's biggest battery.

At the moment all the opposition leader has to do to become Prime Minister at the next election is turn up.
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07-10-2017, 07:45 AM
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The environmentalist shut it down,the yanks have the NRA ruling,we have the environmentalist ruling the brits.

Bullsh*t!!! - It was McGregor and that evil witch Thatcher(phth, phth, phth) who was responsible for the closure of the coal industry, notwithstanding we're sitting on more than 500 years of coal beneath our feet.
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07-10-2017, 07:48 AM
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We should be investing in nuclear JBR. It's cleaner.

Tell that to the former inhabitants of Chernobyl, three mile Island and Northern Japan.
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07-10-2017, 08:30 AM
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Bullsh*t!!! - It was McGregor and that evil witch Thatcher(phth, phth, phth) who was responsible for the closure of the coal industry, notwithstanding we're sitting on more than 500 years of coal beneath our feet.
Hi

It was Scargill who destroyed it.

He and his thugs also destroyed communities.

It was Scargill's thugs, brought in from outside, who assaulted my Mum and tipped my blind and disabled brother over when she was taking him to hospital because she did not have enough money to put in the bucket.

Quick to bully a woman with a disabled kid, also quick to run when faced with older brothers who hunted them down.

As for your Marxist Scargill, an update.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...alf-value.html
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07-10-2017, 08:59 AM
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Most Yorkshire folk dislike Scargill and his cronies.

As far as fracking in Scotland is concerned I read that they have very few possible fracking sites anyway so banning fracking isn't really that big an issue. I suppose it makes them look good though
 
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