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Women were burned at the stake for treason rather than being hanged to protect their modesty (of all things). The woman in last night's programme would not have been stripped at her execution for the same reason. The stone put under her back was to make the execution quicker in that it fractures the spine.

Execution in this manner (pressing) is also an attempt to get the victim to confess their crime but doing so would have made them guilty and any land or properties they owned would have been forfeited to the crown and their families evicted.
I was wondering about that stone, so thanks for the heads up, a really enthralling episode, I do enjoy these historical dramas, it a great learning tool
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22-10-2017, 06:52 PM
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Women were burned at the stake for treason rather than being hanged to protect their modesty (of all things). The woman in last night's programme would not have been stripped at her execution for the same reason. The stone put under her back was to make the execution quicker in that it fractures the spine.

Execution in this manner (pressing) is also an attempt to get the victim to confess their crime but doing so would have made them guilty and any land or properties they owned would have been forfeited to the crown and their families evicted.
But, according to all historical accounts, the woman I mentioned from York, Margaret Clitherow was subjected to the indignity of being stripped before being subjected to this horrific crushing treatment. This wasn't under the reign of James I but only about 20 years earlier, under the reign of Elizabeth.

"The two sergeants who should have carried out the execution hired four desperate beggars to do it instead. She was stripped and had a handkerchief tied across her face then laid across a sharp rock the size of a man's fist, the door from her own house was put on top of her and loaded with an immense weight of rocks and stones so that the sharp rock would break her back. Her death occurred within fifteen minutes, but her body was left for six hours before the weight was removed."
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22-10-2017, 06:53 PM
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When and where was this programme on please?
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BBC1 last night at 9 pm.
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You can get the whole series on BBC Player
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22-10-2017, 10:37 PM
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But, according to all historical accounts, the woman I mentioned from York, Margaret Clitherow was subjected to the indignity of being stripped before being subjected to this horrific crushing treatment. This wasn't under the reign of James I but only about 20 years earlier, under the reign of Elizabeth.

"The two sergeants who should have carried out the execution hired four desperate beggars to do it instead. She was stripped and had a handkerchief tied across her face then laid across a sharp rock the size of a man's fist, the door from her own house was put on top of her and loaded with an immense weight of rocks and stones so that the sharp rock would break her back. Her death occurred within fifteen minutes, but her body was left for six hours before the weight was removed."
The reports I read said that she was naked except for a linen shift, her hose and shoes being given to a family member the night before her death. I suppose any accounts from so long ago will differ.
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22-10-2017, 10:44 PM
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BBC1 last night at 9 pm.

Thank you CeeCee.
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Executions were a public spectacle, thousands are reported to have attended the more notorious.
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Executions were a public spectacle, thousands are reported to have attended the more notorious.
It beats Saturday night tv I suppose.
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I watched it because many of the places where it all happened, are near to me!
I had to fast forward the torture and gory bits!
 
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