Re: Second Coming or Scam ?
Originally Posted by
BDR44
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The Jesus in the Gospels is not the gentle meek and mild hippie type.
The Jesus in the Gospels (by which I assume you mean just the 4 permitted for human consumption by the "Church") is a portrayal of a man made hundreds of years after the events. Even the paltry 4 Gospels we are allowed to see can't agree on the events that took place.
Originally Posted by
BDR44
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Trouble is people who no longer read the Gospels make assertions and many who do don't bother to discover the context in which things were said or the fact that Jesus was a Jew and a Rabbi and the fact that Jesus was the Latinised name for Yeshua (Joshua).
The trouble is in giving credence to a set of man-written works that are relating stories and specific dialogue from hundreds of years after those events.
It would be somewhat like me asking YOU today to write up a book on the person of Dionysius IV of Constantinople who died in 1696.
Now you might be able to concoct some pithy tome based on scraps of historical evidence but you couldn't in good faith and with any honesty write a line that said:
"And Dionysius said 'Why come these people to my doors asking for money?"
and so on. If you did, you would be heralded as a charlatan.
The argument that some magical . . sorry . . Divine . . . mind-controlling influence occurred between the writers and "God" is imo just silly. Can you imagine it? Matthew sitting there in a complete trance almost sleep writing verbatim the words coming to him across the ether? I can just imagine God's frustration . . "Come on Matthew, concentrate for goodness sake, this is important stuff !". lol
For goodness sake this would be "God" we are talking about. Would the being who created planets, stars, universes limit himself to trying to communicate to Man using ink and paper and not even writing the stuff himself but getting humans to do it for him hundreds of years after events had happened? Really? Come on think that through ! Use the mind you were given! If God is God he could have etched those writings with bolts of lightening on the face of Mount Everest for all to see !
I am NOT an atheist. There does exist imo a "God" but I don't believe it is anything remotely like that portrayed by the human powers that have drip fed so many millions of people with constructed texts and associated dogma and teachings for centuries. That is just a system of control for weak minded people who can be controlled through fear and compliance. The actions of the "Church" and associated powers reveal the true nature and we already know that there have been and continue to be some very wicked and evil practices rife within it.
We are all connected to whatever "God" is whether that be the universal source of all things, the central life energy that makes us what we are, a supreme consciousness and so on.
We are all part of the greater whole. In this sense, I AM GOD and GOD IS ME. I am a part of God. So are you. God is everywhere, in everything. You instinctively know it and feel it within you. That is where the longing/yearning comes from to know the truth and to touch it and rejoin with it. It is that part of you that is not physical. It is the true source of life.
Your mind is a part of who you are. We can not, must not, put our minds aside and instead soak up and blindly follow social conditioning. No God that gave u a mind would want us to do that.
Our eyes have been veiled by those in control and we have been conditioned not to question, not to challenge but to simply accept and follow. The actual story derived from the full set of available works does not stack up with the story the "Church" wants to manipulate and portray. That is why the story has been heavily censored. The walls of that story will doubtless come crumbling down soon enough.
Finding the truth is hard, often complicated and tiring and it has been made so by wicked people imo. Yet seek it we must.