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15-09-2017, 08:21 PM
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Re: No Deal is better than a Bad Deal.

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Pot calling kettle black there it feels very much like eu needs to sort it's self out or do you really want to live in a huge United States of Europe, with your own army ? The financial manager being allowed to go into any Eu country and make them do what he says, and I'm sure there is more they haven't told you yet too.
Oh dear, she's back!

My advice is not to pay any heed to her rantings, any more than you'd listen to Gina Miller or Saint Bob Geldof!
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16-09-2017, 11:31 AM
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Re: No Deal is better than a Bad Deal.

Originally Posted by Julie1962 View Post
Pot calling kettle black there it feels very much like eu needs to sort it's self out or do you really want to live in a huge United States of Europe, with your own army ? The financial manager being allowed to go into any Eu country and make them do what he says, and I'm sure there is more they haven't told you yet too.
Agreed , Julie and Junker's ideals, are not Junker's ideals at all. All he has done is deliver the agenda that has been in the pipeline for a very long time. These things don't come about over night. There are higher levels than Junker, he is simply the messenger.
'President of Europe' which has been muted for long enough, has now been given the 'official mention'.
Some might say it's 'coming clean' from the diversions and underhanded manoeuvers that have continued for decades. Only Farage gave us the true insight into proceedings.
I also doubt much will happen until the German elections are over. EU may be blaming us for being slow, but they are also stalling whist waiting for the next Chancellor to be elected.
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Re: No Deal is better than a Bad Deal.

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Agreed , Julie and Junker's ideals, are not Junker's ideals at all. All he has done is deliver the agenda that has been in the pipeline for a very long time. These things don't come about over night. There are higher levels than Junker, he is simply the messenger.
'President of Europe' which has been muted for long enough, has now been given the 'official mention'.
Some might say it's 'coming clean' from the diversions and underhanded manoeuvers that have continued for decades. Only Farage gave us the true insight into proceedings.
I also doubt much will happen until the German elections are over. EU may be blaming us for being slow, but they are also stalling whist waiting for the next Chancellor to be elected.
I agree. Everything points to the EU (if it is allowed to continue along its present path) becoming a European equivalent of the USA.

That would result in 27, or more, previously independent nations becoming no more than states within one large nation.

Like the US, each 'state' would have some control of its own area, but would be subject to overall national laws and rulings, and each would be obliged to pay into a central 'bank' for the running of the entire United States of Europe.

I am sure that is what the Brussels bureaucrats have in mind, anyway.

This works for America, as the 50 states have never been completely independent. It is a new country and founded on the situation of states within a nation.

In my opinion, this will never work for Europe (unless things are forced upon people, as in Nazi Germany) as the individual nations have been independent, have been home to quite different cultures, and have made their own decisions for centuries.

What I find interesting is, how far will the EU go down this course before its member states begin to realise what is happening? Perhaps they will leave it too late and find that there is no escape!
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