08-08-2017, 04:29 PM
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Re: Contaminated eggs
Originally Posted by Julie1962
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I wouldn't like to say mups but I was just pointing out they are easily contaminated. Very porous.
Tis true what you say about the shells being very porous.
Duck eggs are even worse, being more porous than hens.
That is why you should only ever eat very clean, fresh duck eggs that have been layed in clean nesting material.
08-08-2017, 04:49 PM
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HiI have a great deal of sympathy with the Dutch on this one.
A properly approved chemical was supplied to a Dutch Cleaning Company for us in cleaning chicken sheds.
It was supplied by a Belgian Company, who illegally added this insecticide.
The Belgians food standards people found out and rather than report it as they are obliged to those affected, they reported it to the Police as a possible fraud.
Sheer lunacy.
The Dutch Cleaning Company had contracts with 180 odd farms, so all now contaminated, but they also used it to clean slaughterhouses as well, so the investigation has spread.
The only people to come out of this well are the Dutch Government and the Dutch Farmers.
The farmers are going to incur vast losses.
08-08-2017, 04:53 PM
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Swims, Cass says in her first line of post 7, that it was caused by the poultry being treated for mite infestation.If this is the case, I would assume that amount of birds would not be handled and treated individually, but it would be a substance added to food or water?
If if was due as you say, to cage cleaning though, this would still not rid the existing mites living on their host, hence the bird itself would need treatment, depending on the parasite.
I was assuming it was something like the chicken 'Red Mite' which cannot normally be seen during the day as the little blighter creeps out and sucks the birds blood during the night.
They little deposits of grey ashy stuff which looks a bit like fine fag ash, and that is often the first sign you have a problem.
08-08-2017, 05:21 PM
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Re: Contaminated eggs
Originally Posted by Mups
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Swims, Cass says in her first line of post 7, that it was caused by the poultry being treated for mite infestation.If this is the case, I would assume that amount of birds would not be handled and treated individually, but it would be a substance added to food or water?
If if was due as you say, to cage cleaning though, this would still not rid the existing mites living on their host, hence the bird itself would need treatment, depending on the parasite.
I was assuming it was something like the chicken 'Red Mite' which cannot normally be seen during the day as the little blighter creeps out and sucks the birds blood during the night.
They little deposits of grey ashy stuff which looks a bit like fine fag ash, and that is often the first sign you have a problem.
Here you go
"The treatment, named Dega-16, has been traced back to a Belgian pest-control firm named Poultry-Vision, which supplied the product to a cleaning company active on Dutch poultry farms. The point at which the product was contaminated is under investigation.
Some 180 farms served by that company have been placed under lock down until they have been fully tested for the illegal substance.
Treatment not licenced for use in food-producing animals
Fipronil is most commonly used to treat tics, mite and lice on companion animals, such as dogs or cats, and is not licenced for use in food-producing animals. It works by disrupting the nervous system of target species.
Dutch food safety authority, the NVWA, said one batch of eggs poses “an acute danger to public health”, while eggs from around 3 dozen farms have been recalled because fipronil levels pose a risk to children in the event of long-term consumption.
Results from remaining farms are expected within days, and until then no eggs, manure or hens can be moved. Farms found to be contaminated will have to use a specialist company to remove material."
Red Mites live in the structure of the poultry shed, so you treat the structure.
One of our local egg farms produces nearly 500 million eggs a year.
http://www.oaklandsfarmeggs.co.uk/
It is very big news locally.
08-08-2017, 06:11 PM
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Apologies Swim, it is the lice that live on the birds.I am familiar with Red Mite, and when I said about they come out at night - which is true - I had forgotten the wretched little things do not actually live on the bird itself. This being the case, yes, the buildings and any roosting perches would need treatment, you are right.
A friend of mine had an all organic free range poultry farm, and this mite moved in her poultry houses.
The poor birds were reluctant to go back to their houses at night because the damn mites would eat them alive all night long. The birds were quickly losing condition, and laying less and less eggs. Some died.
Being organic, they weren't allowed to use chemicals to kill the mites off.
I remember some of my own bird houses started having a few, but I had perches I could lift out, so I could dip each end of the perch in about 2" of creosote early in the morning when the birds went out and it was dry before they came in at night. The mites would not cross the creosote and by dipping just the ends, it didn't burn the birds feet either.
Then I used one of those little canisters which you can light and make a flame (
what they called?) and singed along all other crevices. That worked for me. 
08-08-2017, 06:54 PM
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HiThe things you light are poultry fumers aka smoke bombs.
The modern ones contain pyrethrum, a safe and natural insecticide.
The older ones, years ago, contained all types of nasties.
Creosote has been banned for amateur use since 2003.
Inspecting Egg Producers and chicken farms is a common part time job for retired EHO's in Rural Areas.
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