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28-10-2017, 11:05 AM
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Re: Just Say NO To Smart Meters!

For those in the UK who feel bullied by energy companies or thinking that Smart Meters are mandatory, have no fear, they are not.

OFGEM STATEMENT

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/consumers/h...rs-your-rights

Do I have to have a smart meter?

"While government and Ofgem believe that all consumers will benefit from having smart meters, they arenít compulsory and you can choose not to have one.

Choosing not to have a smart meter installed may mean you donít have access to all the available tariffs on the market, some of which could be cheaper.

If you do not want to have a smart meter installed now, you will still be able to have one installed (free of charge) at a later date."


Stand firm imo. Do Not accept a Smart Meter.
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28-10-2017, 11:52 AM
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You're still spouting theory not reality. The reality is people DO NOT CHANGE THEIR ENERGY USAGE HABITS as a result of having a Smart Meter. The evidence is out there. The studies have been done.

Thus no-one is going to save money from Smart Meters and in reality the vast majority will see a MASSIVE INCREASE in their bills for exactly the same energy usage.
I completely agree.

I am well aware of the level of power usage (roughly) of our appliances and lighting, and know when to turn them off. I admit that the telly, for example, is left on standby but I am not going to worry about a few milliwatts!

On the other hand, like the Queen, I regularly go around the house turning off lights that Marge has left on.

I don't need a silly 'smart meter' to tell me what to do.
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28-10-2017, 12:14 PM
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The other morning there was a knock on my front door. When I opened it there was a man standing there from my electricity supplier (Scottish Power) asking questions about my meter. He asked if I was on a payment meter for our electricity. I told him that it was a payment meter that had been here already when we moved in years ago and I decided to keep it, buy £30/£40 of electricity a week and feed it rather than receive a large bill. (I know, I pay more this way but I still prefer it).

Anyway, this obnoxious man then informed me that I would have to go onto a Smart Meter! Before he could continue I informed him that "No I don't", Smart Meters being installed are voluntary, not compulsory and there is no way in heaven that I am having one installed thank you".
His reply: "Madam, It is compulsory, the Government are rolling this out throughout the country and you will have to have a Smart Meter installed". I then said: "What utter crap! is this what you are telling all householders? if so, you ought to be thoroughly ashamed of yourself!, it is voluntary, not compulsory". He replied: Madam, I'm not going to argue with you, you will have to have a Smart Meter installed" and then he walked off.

Since then I have been plagued by telephone calls and texts from them. I have blocked most of the numbers but they really are a pain.

I think it is disgusting these obnoxious salespeople calling at homes, are lying to householders about having to have Smart Meters installed.
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28-10-2017, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl View Post
The other morning there was a knock on my front door. When I opened it there was a man standing there from my electricity supplier (Scottish Power) asking questions about my meter. He asked if I was on a payment meter for our electricity. I told him that it was a payment meter that had been here already when we moved in years ago and I decided to keep it, buy £30/£40 of electricity a week and feed it rather than receive a large bill. (I know, I pay more this way but I still prefer it).

Anyway, this obnoxious man then informed me that I would have to go onto a Smart Meter! Before he could continue I informed him that "No I don't", Smart Meters being installed are voluntary, not compulsory and there is no way in heaven that I am having one installed thank you".
His reply: "Madam, It is compulsory, the Government are rolling this out throughout the country and you will have to have a Smart Meter installed". I then said: "What utter crap! is this what you are telling all householders? if so, you ought to be thoroughly ashamed of yourself!, it is voluntary, not compulsory". He replied: Madam, I'm not going to argue with you, you will have to have a Smart Meter installed" and then he walked off.

Since then I have been plagued by telephone calls and texts from them. I have blocked most of the numbers but they really are a pain.

I think it is disgusting these obnoxious salespeople calling at homes, are lying to householders about having to have Smart Meters installed.
That is disgusting.

I believe that he is guilty of false representation and you should certainly make a formal complaint to his company. Ideally, I would have asked him for his name for that reason, but nevertheless, it should be quite possible for his bosses to trace his identity from time and place details.

Mentioning it to the media wouldn't be a bad idea either.
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28-10-2017, 01:46 PM
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You're still spouting theory not reality. The reality is people DO NOT CHANGE THEIR ENERGY USAGE HABITS as a result of having a Smart Meter. The evidence is out there. The studies have been done.

Thus no-one is going to save money from Smart Meters and in reality the vast majority will see a MASSIVE INCREASE in their bills for exactly the same energy usage.
Calm down, all this excitement can't be good for you.

You have given no facts to back up your claims, they are obviously made up - these are FACTS from a report compiled for the World Energy Council which summarised:

Smart bills can be a cost-efficient and effective way to engage an entire customer base, promote energy efficiency and foster conservation behavior. In the case studies reviewed as part of this report, smart bills were responsible for reducing household electricity consumption by between 1.1% and 2.7% and gas consumption by between 2.2% and 2.8% while at the same time proving cost-effective compared to other feedback and energy efficiency programs;
This report studied smart meter results in:
Case Study: USA - California
Case study: Republic of Ireland
Case study: Sweden
Case study: Australia - Victoria
Case study: UAE - Abu dhabi
Case study: Chile
Case study: South Africa
Case study: PRC - Hong Kong

It didn't look at the UK possibly because with usual British flair you will stuff up the roll out of such meters with the Luddites being put in charge. The report warns that the roll out needs to be effectively managed otherwise costs outweigh the benefits. "Effective Management" is not really something you associate with the UK is it?
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28-10-2017, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl View Post
The other morning there was a knock on my front door. When I opened it there was a man standing there from my electricity supplier (Scottish Power) asking questions about my meter. He asked if I was on a payment meter for our electricity. I told him that it was a payment meter that had been here already when we moved in years ago and I decided to keep it, buy £30/£40 of electricity a week and feed it rather than receive a large bill. (I know, I pay more this way but I still prefer it).

Anyway, this obnoxious man then informed me that I would have to go onto a Smart Meter! Before he could continue I informed him that "No I don't", Smart Meters being installed are voluntary, not compulsory and there is no way in heaven that I am having one installed thank you".
His reply: "Madam, It is compulsory, the Government are rolling this out throughout the country and you will have to have a Smart Meter installed". I then said: "What utter crap! is this what you are telling all householders? if so, you ought to be thoroughly ashamed of yourself!, it is voluntary, not compulsory". He replied: Madam, I'm not going to argue with you, you will have to have a Smart Meter installed" and then he walked off.

Since then I have been plagued by telephone calls and texts from them. I have blocked most of the numbers but they really are a pain.

I think it is disgusting these obnoxious salespeople calling at homes, are lying to householders about having to have Smart Meters installed.
I would switch away from Scottish Power - greedy and arrogant bar stewards.
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Calm down, all this excitement can't be good for you.

It didn't look at the UK possibly because with usual British flair you will stuff up the roll out of such meters with the Luddites being put in charge. The report warns that the roll out needs to be effectively managed otherwise costs outweigh the benefits. "Effective Management" is not really something you associate with the UK is it?
Brucie-no mates making a c**k of himself, as usual!

Scottish Power texted me about 6 times asking to discuss installing a Smart Meter and I texted No the first 3 times and ignored the text the next 3 times .
Then they phoned me in person and I told the salesman that if he was Smart he would've worked out by now that I wasn't interested .

I think that did the trick as I've not heard from them since which is good because I don't want an intrusive, radiation emitting, fire hazard installed in my house, thank you!
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Brucie-no mates making a c**k of himself, as usual!

Scottish Power texted me about 6 times asking to discuss installing a Smart Meter and I texted No the first 3 times and ignored the text the next 3 times .
Then they phoned me in person and I told the salesman that if he was Smart he would've worked out by now that I wasn't interested .

I think that did the trick as I've not heard from them since which is good because I don't want an intrusive, radiation emitting, fire hazard installed in my house, thank you!
They can mither me 'til the cows come home if they want.

We are not obliged to accept smart meters and they may not install one without our acceptance.
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07-12-2017, 05:29 PM
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They can mither me 'til the cows come home if they want.

We are not obliged to accept smart meters and they may not install one without our acceptance.
The Gov has told the power supplies to get their customers to have these meters installed by 2020 in all houses.

Think in 2021 they will be laws will be enacted to have them installed.


Bye the Bye to you luddits I had one put in last year and its no different either way, you just don't have some person knocking on my door...YOU still have to pay.
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Iíve just found this very interesting thread. Iíve also refused to have a Smart Meter installed. What originally alerted me was the frequent advertisements about them. That convinced me that this is a good deal for the companies and therefore no doubt a bad deal for me. I had my first phone call a few days and had my message already preparedÖ
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