Re: Britain is not a nation of immigrants
Originally Posted by
Muddy
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Yes if they are of benefit
But even at the peak of arrivals, medical staff were never more than 5% of immigration. The reason they were needed is that we have failed to train our own staff.
Other countries in Europe have only 5% (Italy), 10.5% (Germany) and 15% (France) of foreign qualified doctors, while the UK has 35% .
I don't understand why we need people to pick vegetables we never used too what has changed ?
Besides this is seasonal visas could be given for seasonal work .
Hi
We have always had seasonal workers Muddy.
Sheep shearers are a prime example.
Farms have become far more mechanised,far fewer farm Workers, so at peak times, we need the labour.
Brendan,my ex son in law, we are still on the best of terms,has a huge £600,000 one pass machine which can do in one day what it used to take 4men a week to do.
He still needs extra manpower at busy times.
He is not happy at the moment that I am not driving, I normally deliver his fuel and bits and pieces at planting time,which is coming up soon, the machine will be working 24/7 and at harvest I drive a Tractor and trailer for him.
It is the same at sillage time,it has to be chopped at a certain water content.
Seasonal Permits are the way forward,the EU Workers have no issue with that,they come and go.
Our busy times do not coincide with theirs, they come, work and then go back to their own farms,most commonly via Germany,it suits them.
It is the same with Zac and Derek, the two who stay at my house.
They live in Poland, their partners and children are there.
They have a very successful business here, they come,pay tax and NI,do not claim any benefits,sell the Spacesaver Wheels here, load up with spares and disappear back off home.
They pay Tax in Poland on what they export from here.
I pay full Council Tax, do not claim the 25% Discount for Single Occupancy even though they are not here a lot.
They pay rent and tax on their Industrial Unit.
I do however use the Rent a Room Scheme, so anything up to £7,500 a year is Tax Free.
This is because I do, from time to time,when asked,take in,short term,foreign NHS staff whilst they find somewhere to live.
I find it amazing, and utterly stupid, when we blame the EU for our own shortcomings.
I found it incredibly frustrating, when I was working,to have to release Illegals,to disappear again.
To those of you who think the Brexiteers are our salvation, I would point out one thing.
Boris is on public record that we should give them an amnesty.
He can get stuffed.