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28-03-2018, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Mountaintop ->
The truth is you have a vote - for members of the European Parliament and in turn, government's votes for their member of the European Commission. Why is that so different from voting for your MP, whose interests will often be to the party whip, not to his local constituency, than a European wide election. Again, I say it, the EU is a force for good. This has been proven. European peace and prosperity is the result. Like everything else, people have this habit of knocking that which works. As I said before, time will tell. And what if you are wrong? What will you say? Sorry? Too late!
Eu didn't cover themselves in glory or exactly help peace in Yugoslavia it was them jumping the gun and recognising a disputed area set that region alight. They've allowed people in Catalonia be brutalised by Spain. No word about keeping it peaceful from them.

They want to take Gibraltar in a land grab, doing their best to reignite northern Irish problems.

Not a peaceful benign organisation at all IMO
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28-03-2018, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Julie1962 ->
Eu didn't cover themselves in glory or exactly help peace in Yugoslavia it was them jumping the gun and recognising a disputed area set that region alight. They've allowed people in Catalonia be brutalised by Spain. No word about keeping it peaceful from them.

They want to take Gibraltar in a land grab, doing their best to reignite northern Irish problems.

Not a peaceful benign organisation at all IMO

I've heard it all now. This is the greatest nonsense I've heard in a long time. Don't know why I bother coming on this site. It's just an echo chamber, people listening to their own views and those of people they agree with. The people in Catalonia brutalised! If you want to go down that road, look to your own history. And the EU wants to reignite the Irish problem do they? Who was it made a pact with the Unionists? Do you really believe in what you are saying? Is there no reality check, no ability to question yourself, or history, or the current political situation and come up with an OBJECTIVE comment. Please! And by the way, I suppose the EU is responsible for circles in corn fields too. Give me a break.
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28-03-2018, 09:33 AM
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If you like seeing elderly and women dragged from voting booths by their hair them yes it wasn't brutal at all. Me I'm a peaceful person and expect better from my leaders, they even bought in police from other regions because local police refused to handle them harshly enough !
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28-03-2018, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
That's because by voting brexit you've cut your nose off to spite your face!
Calm down dear, it's only a discussion!

Actually, I do feel rather sorry for you. You lost, and you are finding it so difficult to accept that, especially as there is absolutely nothing that you can do about it...

...other than whinge about it.
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28-03-2018, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by twizzle ->
I’d vote Remain again, of course.
But in some ways my position has changed since the referendum.
When I first considered the issues, I was about 60 to 40 in favour of Remain and did have some issues with the EU.

Since the result and having heard and seen the attitudes of many Brexiters, the complicated mess of the negotiations and the grim future that Brexit will condemn us to, my issues with the EU have paled into insignificance and I’m now 100% in favour of Remain.
Sad, isn't it?

That you can do nothing about it now, I mean.
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28-03-2018, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mountaintop ->
The truth is you have a vote - for members of the European Parliament and in turn, government's votes for their member of the European Commission. Why is that so different from voting for your MP, whose interests will often be to the party whip, not to his local constituency, than a European wide election. Again, I say it, the EU is a force for good. This has been proven. European peace and prosperity is the result. Like everything else, people have this habit of knocking that which works. As I said before, time will tell. And what if you are wrong? What will you say? Sorry? Too late!
The difference is that every MP has been voted into government by the people of this country.

Not 1/28th of them.
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28-03-2018, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Julie1962 ->
Eu didn't cover themselves in glory or exactly help peace in Yugoslavia it was them jumping the gun and recognising a disputed area set that region alight. They've allowed people in Catalonia be brutalised by Spain. No word about keeping it peaceful from them.

They want to take Gibraltar in a land grab, doing their best to reignite northern Irish problems.

Not a peaceful benign organisation at all IMO
Originally Posted by Mountaintop ->
I've heard it all now. This is the greatest nonsense I've heard in a long time. Don't know why I bother coming on this site. It's just an echo chamber, people listening to their own views and those of people they agree with. The people in Catalonia brutalised! If you want to go down that road, look to your own history. And the EU wants to reignite the Irish problem do they? Who was it made a pact with the Unionists? Do you really believe in what you are saying? Is there no reality check, no ability to question yourself, or history, or the current political situation and come up with an OBJECTIVE comment. Please! And by the way, I suppose the EU is responsible for circles in corn fields too. Give me a break.
Oh diddums! If you don't like this site then you are not obliged to stay. In fact, there are a couple of ladies on here who completely agree with you with regard to remaining under the jackboot.

Actually, what Julie said is absolutely correct.
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28-03-2018, 12:13 PM
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Now that the lying, scheming, conniving brexiteers have been shown to have illegally overspent during the referendum, in all fairness, we ought to either re-run that referendum or alternatively organise a new referndum when the scumbag 'nasty party' finally disclose the terms of their surrender, I mean negotiations.
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28-03-2018, 12:25 PM
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Thank God the founding fathers of America were not as blinkered as the Little Englanders are today. There'd be no United States if they were. We'd still have New England, New Hampshire, Texas, etc, and all probably at war with one another.
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28-03-2018, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mountaintop ->
Thank God the founding fathers of America were not as blinkered as the Little Englanders are today. There'd be no United States if they were. We'd still have New England, New Hampshire, Texas, etc, and all probably at war with one another.
And if the Irish weren't so blinkered in 1921 we'd still have the whole of Ireland to call our own!
 
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