10-06-2017, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by summer
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Young people voted for more beer in bigger pint pots, nothing to do with right or left, Corbyn promised everything knowing he would not have to deliver. Which of us would not vote for free university education if we were that age and going to uni? £9000 per year for three years...you bet I would vote not to pay that.
The problem is that, if Labour promise money to give the young what they want, of course they will expect it, but which other citizens will suffer for all these vote grabbing ideas?
If they tax big businesses too much they will move elsewhere... thereby taking a lot of jobs from the British people, who will then need to claim benefits!
The Labour idea of equality will just make everybody poorer, because, if you don't have the wealthy bringing money into this country, where will the money come from to support the poor?
10-06-2017, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiThe election has left us with a few problems.
On the home front, we will now see if May is going to up the ante in the fight against terrorism.
Contrary to what May has been saying publicly, she is still cutting Budgets.
http://www.publicfinance.co.uk/news/...nit-drop-ps32m
She is going to have to find some more money from somewhere.
Mrs May we only be able to enact security legislation if she is allowed by parliament and to a great extent that will be hindered by Labour and Corbin.
With regard to cutting budgets, we still need to live within our means. I wonder how long it will be before our creditors lose patience with us as they did with Labour in the seventies.
As for were the money will come from? It will come from us, either in the form of increased production from the workforce or increased taxation, take your pick.
10-06-2017, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Twink55
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I agree with what you say Summer, and I know that young people are more interested in what they can get now, rather than what it will produce later... hell weren't we all the same at their age?The problem is that, if Labour promise money to give the young what they want, of course they will expect it, but which other citizens will suffer for all these vote grabbing ideas?
If they tax big businesses too much they will move elsewhere... thereby taking a lot of jobs from the British people, who will then need to claim benefits!
The Labour idea of equality will just make everybody poorer, because, if you don't have the wealthy bringing money into this country, where will the money come from to support the poor?
10-06-2017, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiI always look on the bright side summer.
It means I can still go on my wine runs to Calais and the cheap vodka and tobacco will still be available.
By the way did no one tell you smoking is bad for your health!
10-06-2017, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Twink55
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I agree with what you say Summer, and I know that young people are more interested in what they can get now, rather than what it will produce later... hell weren't we all the same at their age?The problem is that, if Labour promise money to give the young what they want, of course they will expect it, but which other citizens will suffer for all these vote grabbing ideas?
If they tax big businesses too much they will move elsewhere... thereby taking a lot of jobs from the British people, who will then need to claim benefits!
The Labour idea of equality will just make everybody poorer, because, if you don't have the wealthy bringing money into this country, where will the money come from to support the poor?
10-06-2017, 09:10 AM
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I am disappointed by the election result, but I've calmed down a bit now, so here are my thoughtsI can see that TM needed to call a GE to clear the air and get a proper mandate.
At first she was riding high, and although labour would probably have gained a few votes with their sweeteners like tuition fees, she would still have had a decent majority
The real damage was done by three things - Winter Fuel Allowance; Care/Dementia Tax; and Pensions Lock
Why, Oh why, did she even mention them?
These would hit a certain age group (ours) who were the most likely to vote Conservative, and also send a signal to the rest of the population
If she needed to find money, she could have announced that it was coming by reducing the overseas aid budget - yes, the Snowflakes and the Left would have squealed, but she wouldn't have had their votes anyway, and overall it would have gained her votes. Just what is it about this that makes all the established parties refuse to touch it?
My concern is that this will lead to a weakening of Brexit, and the likes of Timmy & Gina are already doing their best to subvert it
If we don't get a proper Brexit in the months & years to come, there will be a lot of angry people around, myself included
10-06-2017, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by zuludog
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I am disappointed by the election result, but I've calmed down a bit now, so here are my thoughtsI can see that TM needed to call a GE to clear the air and get a proper mandate.
At first she was riding high, and although labour would probably have gained a few votes with their sweeteners like tuition fees, she would still have had a decent majority
The real damage was done by three things - Winter Fuel Allowance; Care/Dementia Tax; and Pensions Lock
Why, Oh why, did she even mention them?
These would hit a certain age group (ours) who were the most likely to vote Conservative, and also send a signal to the rest of the population
If she needed to find money, she could have announced that it was coming by reducing the overseas aid budget - yes, the Snowflakes and the Left would have squealed, but she wouldn't have had their votes anyway, and overall it would have gained her votes. Just what is it about this that makes all the established parties refuse to touch it?
My concern is that this will lead to a weakening of Brexit, and the likes of Timmy & Gina are already doing their best to subvert it
If we don't get a proper Brexit in the months & years to come, there will be a lot of angry people around, myself included
10-06-2017, 10:08 AM
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Dear god preserve us, have you seen the motley crew the Cons have aligned with to boost their numbers?Anti same sex marriage, anti abortion, gun toting blah blah blah...I can't see May lasting long at this rate
Election results 2017: Who are the DUP's 10 MPs? - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40220397
10-06-2017, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ruthio
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Dear god preserve us, have you seen the motley crew the Cons have aligned with to boost their numbers?Anti same sex marriage, anti abortion, gun toting blah blah blah...I can't see May lasting long at this rate
Election results 2017: Who are the DUP's 10 MPs? - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40220397
10-06-2017, 10:16 AM
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Yes Zuludog excellent post.....
I'm just wondering why the media, and us on this forum like to group people together [Stereotypes] I don't believe there is anywhere on a voting form to write your name, age, or any other relevant details. Some journalist lurking around a university car park asking students how they will vote is hardly a representation of all students from all different locations and different walks of life.
How many people on this forum were asked which way they would vote on the way out of an M&S cafe or Garden Centre. And what about peer pressure on the students. I'm sure if they fancied voting against general flow they would not want it televised across the whole nation. Your vote is your business and nobody has to declare who they voted for.....
So let's face it, we are assuming.......Just like we assumed that everyone would vote to remain in the EU, or that all Americans would not vote for the likes of Trump to be president. So based on such flimsy evidence we can put all the elderly in a group, all the young in a group, all the rich in a group and all the working classes from up north in a group and guess which way they voted......
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