Re: Possible 100,000 city jobs to go

Julie this and other forums were bleeding numbers and the words "mass migration" for years before 23 June. There were hysterical posts from Marmeduke going on about Turkey being able to empty into the Bristol Channel. There were chest thumping posts about Eastern Europeans flooding the UK. Oh yes indeed the issue was numbers but doing a David Davis double take isn't going to change the fact that when you need immigrants and restrict Europeans, you will get non Europeans who could be anyone.
Is that what you want?

Re: Possible 100,000 city jobs to go

Hi

A simple example, the proposed EU Army.

Sod that for a game of marbles.

Why should our youngsters be put at risk because of the failings of others to support NATO?

Germany, the biggest economy in the EU, has refused point blank to meet it's financial commitments to NATO.

Junckers Luxembourg, also incredibly rich, has also refused.

Two of the poorest nations in the EU, Poland and Greece do meet their obligations, at great cost to themselves.

The much vaunted Luftwaffe cannot even target at night.

As for the French, they have only just started using NATO standard ammunition, much more interested in keeping their own industries viable.

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Yes mass that's the word we don't want. Selected controlled numbers like most countries have is what we want.

You can't just walk into Australia and start working rightly so. So why do we want that here ? Why would anyone want that ?

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my apologies. I went back a d reread the 2008 Immigration act synopsis and got my labels mixed up.

Here is a summary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Points...United_Kingdom)

The principle remains. immigration is IMO preferable form the near European countries which offer a safer ^population more conversant with the UK culture.
The idea of letting in potential terrorists from god knows where doesn't sit well with me.

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Stoping South Africans, Canadians, Americans, Australians, thaiwanese I could go on all to stop a possible terrorist is ridiculous. We need to control who comes but I'm perfectly happy with most nations, all nations actually if they are investigated well enough.

Re: Possible 100,000 city jobs to go

Julie do you see any number of EU citizens sleeping on parks or propping up doorways? I don't.
Why? Because they are WORKING.
Why do you want to make obtaining labour so much more cumbersome and difficult when the results may be even worse but the numbers no different?

Re: Possible 100,000 city jobs to go

I didn't suggest that. I said if you increase the number of non EU immigrants at the lower pay scale level you increase the possibility of terrorism.

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SF is is only recently that Germany was allowed to have an army. It was formulated in 1955 at a very restricted level.
I'll tell you why I support an EU army.

Ukraine and Russia.
Refugees and terrorism.

Ukraine borers the EU. Russia is expansionist and looking west .

There needs to be some enforcement of EU borders to stop refugees flooding in. Countries like Greece ans Italy cannot cope on their own. Nor is it NATO's job since no one is attacking the EU.

and armies help in natural disasters.
There is no reason why an EU army cannot support a NATO force but not have to rely on it.

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Yes actually aggressive begging has definitely been down to some cultures coming from Eastern Europe, also squatting, sex working and trafficking all risen hugely.

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I was saying what has happened not what may happen in sometime in the future. As for terrorism among poorer people we make a lot of our own home grown terrorists as have other European countries.