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I think that if the cry for help goes unheeded they may well just do it next time.
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Originally Posted by deylon ->
I know a lot of us have health conditions,some pretty back.Do you ever think about giving up fighting your illness and wait for death ? NO I dont think that way myself,just keep plodding along doing what Im told,but I wonder how others feel.My friend has got a supply of morphine and could easily take it to end her life, she says she has considered it at times whan her pain has been bad , but something has always stopped her
As you were joining this forum I was in a really bad way and landed up in hospital. All the time I was in there I never gave it a though about giving up.

Even the DR's prepared my wife Sue to expect the worst I was that bad .

The will to live in people is stronger than then one would think when you get that close to the end of life.
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Originally Posted by deylon ->
I know a lot of us have health conditions,some pretty back.Do you ever think about giving up fighting your illness and wait for death ? NO I dont think that way myself,just keep plodding along doing what Im told,but I wonder how others feel.My friend has got a supply of morphine and could easily take it to end her life, she says she has considered it at times whan her pain has been bad , but something has always stopped her

I too have a large (300ml) of lliquid morphine (Oromorph) plus several other types of tablets, all of which are medically prescribed for me and which could, if I was so minded, put an end to my life. I have NEVER got so low in depression to even contemplate ending my life, BUT if my quality of life deteriorates to that extent, then yes I have the means to terminate my life.
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03-08-2017, 12:34 PM
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I think many of us have Uj, it actually keeps me going knowing I have mine and can use it when I need.
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03-08-2017, 07:12 PM
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Twinks you are right , a very dear elderly friend was locked in a secure mental ward for several weeks, when I discovered why I was told it was because he'd said he didnt care if he lived or not and they thought he may harm himself. He was a widower with health conditions. A couple of friends and I argued that no way would he harm himself and he was finally released [I like to think we helped]
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03-08-2017, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by deylon ->
Twinks you are right , a very dear elderly friend was locked in a secure mental ward for several weeks, when I discovered why I was told it was because he'd said he didnt care if he lived or not and they thought he may harm himself. He was a widower with health conditions. A couple of friends and I argued that no way would he harm himself and he was finally released [I like to think we helped]
I am sure you did deylon! Sometimes people, who feel there is no point continuing with life, are sad and lonely. They are often not mentally ill , but they need somebody to help them through the bad times.
I once stopped a man in Australia, over the internet, from committing suicide and I managed to get help out to his home. He was wealthy, so taken into a private mental care home, but after a few weeks he wrote to thank me for saving his life.
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Speaking to a nurse who was at a training seminar , the subject was about suicide. I asked the question , how did people react when they found themself's in hospital woken up and brought back by the hospital staff , we're they angry that they were still here , she replied , no , they were never angry , just emotional and needed support .

Something else interesting , 8 paracetamol taken AT ONE TIME is enough to rot and damage the liver . I was surprised at this as would have imagined more
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04-08-2017, 12:21 PM
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Then you are wrong I know somebody that it happened to.
I know many who have had these thoughts and they didn't get sectioned.
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04-08-2017, 12:30 PM
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I know many who have had these thoughts and they didn't get sectioned.
But that doesn't mean they all don't, as deylon's and my friends experience shows.
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04-08-2017, 03:49 PM
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But that doesn't mean they all don't, as deylon's and my friends experience shows.
I understand what you are saying, but I think there must have been other factors under consideration. People do not usually end up sectioned and in a "secure" mental hospital. When people speak of "secure" mental hospital, they don't generally mean on the psych. ward of a DGH, but in a specialist unit.

See link - contract for Medium/low secure mental hospital. I assume we are not talking about High units.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/wp-conten...low-sec-mh.pdf
 
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