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I did yesterday and you replied to it....and the question asked was specific to 'breaking the law'

Cannabis is illegal, it’s a Class B drug and if someone is caught with even a small amount, the police will always take action.
Now you have cottoned on.....you've dropped the attempt to prove me wrong regarding decriminalisation and adopted "illegal" instead.....after your misunderstanding of very basic law.

decriminalisation is one step nearer to legalisation
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Now you have cottoned on.....you've dropped the attempt to prove me wrong regarding decriminalisation and adopted "illegal" instead.....after your misunderstanding of very basic law.

decriminalisation is one step nearer to legalisation
Just because some Police 'turn a blind eye' to a person smoking 'dope' does mean that Cannabis has been legalised or decriminalised.

Cannabis is still illegal, no matter how much or little you have in your possession, Cannabis is a Class B drug.

The maximum penalty for possession of cannabis is five years imprisonment.
A magistrates' court can also impose a fine of up to £2,500.
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09-01-2017, 11:47 PM
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If you required Pot for medical reasons, you'd be okay in Prison. it freely available there, slap yer money on the counter and Pots your Uncle.
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My brother-in-law seems able to get it too - tax free!
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Decriminalisation does not mean that people can use drugs with impunity. Instead it means that possessing small amounts no longer lands the perpetrator with a criminal record or a jail sentence.
Originally Posted by Pats ->
Just because some Police 'turn a blind eye' to a person smoking 'dope' does mean that Cannabis has been legalised or decriminalised.

Cannabis is still illegal, no matter how much or little you have in your possession, Cannabis is a Class B drug.

The maximum penalty for possession of cannabis is five years imprisonment.
A magistrates' court can also impose a fine of up to £2,500.
Police dont turn a blind eye to it.....they now have the discretion on how to deal with it.....can they give a street caution to a burglar or a vandal or the perpetrator of an assault etc? No they cant.

Do the above offences carry a 3 strike rule? No.

As for maximum sentences.......they're merely guidlines......never would they be enforced for possession if a small amount of weed.

As I said.....there's no one in prison for smoking cannabis.

If youd seen the recent police documentaries youd see drivers pulled up and cars searched.....the cannabis confiscated and a street caution given.

would they be doing this for any other crime committed?
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"Police can issue a warning or an on-the-spot fine of £90 if you’re found with cannabis".
https://www.gov.uk/penalties-drug-possession-dealing


So, unless this UK Government site is dated, possession is 'illegal'.
If not, how can one be fined for an act which is not an offence ?
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We need to do the same as Holland, legalise and supply it through highly regulated outlets, cafe's et al.
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Originally Posted by Pumicestone ->
"Police can issue a warning or an on-the-spot fine of £90 if you’re found with cannabis".
https://www.gov.uk/penalties-drug-possession-dealing


So, unless this UK Government site is dated, possession is 'illegal'.
If not, how can one be fined for an act which is not an offence ?
You are getting confused Pum.

No one has said the use or possession of cannabis is legal....decriminalised was the word used.
There's a difference between make legal and decriminalised.

Decriminalisation:
"To reduce or abolish criminal penalties for"

The penalties have been reduced....drastically.
Possession used to be instant arrest and a trip to the station where you'd be charged and bailed to appear in court.
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I see.
So the cops can issue an on-the-spot-fine if you re caught with a single 'joint' ?
A bit like a speeding ticket ?
But you don't get carted off to the calaboose in handcuffs.

I wonder if they have the legal power to raid your home on the suspicion that you might have a bit of 'stuff' for 'personal use'.
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Originally Posted by Pumicestone ->
I see.
So the cops can issue an on-the-spot-fine if you re caught with a single 'joint' ?
A bit like a speeding ticket ?
But you don't get carted off to the calaboose in handcuffs.

I wonder if they have the legal power to raid your home on the suspicion that you might have a bit of 'stuff' for 'personal use'.
Police can give a street caution even if its a couple of bags as long as they feel/believe its for personal use.

They cannot get a warrant for a house search on such small amounts.
 
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