10-02-2018, 06:56 PM
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Annie said ................."Like thinking that throwing a bunch of serotonin inhibitors is going to magically cure depression."For a considerable number of people SRIs do help. This tells me that much depression has its origins in a chemical inbalance.
10-02-2018, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Aerolor
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Annie said ................."Like thinking that throwing a bunch of serotonin inhibitors is going to magically cure depression." For a considerable number of people SRIs do help. This tells me that much depression has its origins in a chemical inbalance.
But I do very much agree that the majority of any mood disorders is down to chemical imbalance. It's just that we don't have a really good approach to fixing that imbalance. Plus you have to understand how much brain physiology contributes to that imbalance. If I could I would study neuroscience as it fascinates me.
If you study the current approach you will see it's effectively throwing a dice and hoping it will land on 2 sixes. Sometimes it does and a person is cured. But most mental illness isn't effectively investigated and isn't effectively treated. We are still very primitive in our approach to mental illness.
10-02-2018, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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They have found that it may be as low as only 20%. I've studied the science as part of a psychology foundation. We had to study the psychology of the brain and how neurotransmitters work. (I studied this for fun - believe it or not!). But I do very much agree that the majority of any mood disorders is down to chemical imbalance. It's just that we don't have a really good approach to fixing that imbalance. Plus you have to understand how much brain physiology contributes to that imbalance. If I could I would study neuroscience as it fascinates me.
If you study the current approach you will see it's effectively throwing a dice and hoping it will land on 2 sixes. Sometimes it does and a person is cured. But most mental illness isn't effectively investigated and isn't effectively treated. We are still very primitive in our approach to mental illness.
Is there any reason why you cannot study neuroscience if you want to?
11-02-2018, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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You don't give yourself depression, it just happens. I believe it's a physical weakness in the brain just like some have a weakness in the heart or digestive system or circulation. We all have our strengths and weaknesses. We have to work with the cards life deals us. Manic depression for example is not something anyone causes for themselves by their lack of self worth. It's something that happens and defines the individual without any ability to control it.
People have CHOICES. And need to take responsibility, rather than just looking for excuses all the time.
11-02-2018, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Gravitas
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You are completely missing "the mental weakness" of depression. Using your brain "badly" has its consequences. People have CHOICES. And need to take responsibility, rather than just looking for excuses all the time.
Churchill was a chronic depressive.
I do not consider him to be mentally weak.
11-02-2018, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Aerolor
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I didn't say the majority of mood disorders are down to a chemical disorder Anne. I don't think I used the words majority or disorder. I merely said "much depression" I also believe that depression can be a normal reaction to something and am not sure if I would label all depression as a disorder.Is there any reason why you cannot study neuroscience if you want to?
I didn't study science and you need that to get on any reputable neuroscience programme. I was on a postgraduate conversion psychology programme which the OU decided to stop. That was really disappointing.
11-02-2018, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Gravitas
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You are completely missing "the mental weakness" of depression. Using your brain "badly" has its consequences. People have CHOICES. And need to take responsibility, rather than just looking for excuses all the time.
But maybe you should explain what type of depression you are referring to, because I'm assuming you are including all types from the mildest to psychotic. Most psychiatric conditions have depression as a symptom too.
11-02-2018, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiChurchill was a chronic depressive.
I do not consider him to be mentally weak.
I don't consider myself mentally weak either.
I feel I am very intelligent and can do almost anything I put my mind to.
Trouble with me is that even tho I know the consequences of something, it doesn't stop me, I like the challenge.
I have never been in jail or anything like that, but there is no end to the things I have done which are absolutely out of the ordinary.
When I am in a sad state, I am very sad. I can cry with the drop of a hat. My mind will race to all the things in my life that I did or said that I wish I hadn't....
When I am manic, I will draw, write songs, help people who need help, paint and decorate, move from city to city, you name it I will do it. When I was young, I bought a house that needed a lot of repairs, I remodelled and made a bit profil, mostly all on my own. The men would line up on the street, looking up at me on the roof, fixing a leak or whatever......in the end, some of the neighbours hired me to put their ceramic tile in....and other jobs, while their husbands were at work.
Then, BANG, down to the sadness again, into bed I go, watch movies and wait until it is over. Then, like the turtle, I stick my head out to see if the way is clear, and travel on..
11-02-2018, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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I don't agree that everyone has choices. We all of us have different brain physiology and different experiences in life. But maybe you should explain what type of depression you are referring to, because I'm assuming you are including all types from the mildest to psychotic. Most psychiatric conditions have depression as a symptom too.
11-02-2018, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Gravitas
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You are completely missing "the mental weakness" of depression. Using your brain "badly" has its consequences. People have CHOICES. And need to take responsibility, rather than just looking for excuses all the time.
Depression is not a choice nor is it mental weakness!
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